I'm sick of hearing this opinion so I'm gonna debunk it ☆

Idols shouldn't be expected to write/produce their own music in the first place. They're performers, that's their main priority and what they do. They're supposed to dance, rap, and sing. Songwriting abilities aren't necessary, though of course they're a nice addition to their skillset.

music is more personal and real if the lyrics are written by the singer. but not writing lyrics doesn't make you untalented.

As if that’s the only talent to exist too

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I'm talking about music in general but you make a good point. Idols aren't supposed to be musicial geniuses but they are there to entertain people.

Oh... oops

But similarly, if somebody wants to pursue a career in singing because they enjoy it, it isn't necessary for them to write their own music. They're a singer, and they sing.

If they write that means they are talented, as they can write music, something most people cannot do, however it does not mean they are less talented if they cannot. Someone could write, however may not be a good dancer or singer, and visa versa.

Producing music is hard, so I don't expect everyone to know how to do it.

Taeyeon doesn't write her own songs, Id like to see people call her untalented lol

Of course! I'm not really sure why people base someone's ability or countability to write as a part of talent. Sure, it is a skill that does require talent but it shouldn't be the basis of talent. Some companies don't allow their artists to write anyway.

Plus, saying Blackpink isn't talented because they don't write or something like that is just like you know, wrong! They have the potential to write and then YG throws that away by not letting them write. I've seen a lot from Jennie and Jisoo especially, they are very talented writers. I think they need to get a full song to write someday

I don't think it is mandatory for you to produce or compose your own music

i completely agree with all your points and people who have made comments above but let me offer a slight counterpoint

artists create something...when one looks into art and what it means to be artist it means having the creativity to create something new...

hence people like soyeon, rm, gd (i'm sure there's more) get praised endlessly for their creative talents in addition to their other abilities...

so to answer your questiom op not having writing or production credits doesn't make one less talented but rather those who have such skills are more talented (assuming ceteris parabis of course)

Some of the greatest artists in Music never wrote or produced their songs. Although you would be SHOCKED at the number of people who pursue a career in music and don't really have a passion for it.

I agree but u can one thing more with the artist when they write his the feel

People only say that to discredit artists. There's multiple talents and you can't be great in all.