Ive vs Newjeans exactly just like Twice vs Blackpink back then

It's really similar for me. From the distance between their debuts, the members' background, one with jp members, one with sea and kr+aus members. Their PAK situation so far too actually quite similar where Twice/Ive get it first but Bp/Newjeans get it faster. The members popularity in Korea when their debut too actually quite similar where Ive/Twice have members that popular among gp compared to Nj/Bp. Ive and Nj reminds me a lot with Twice and Bp.

The arguments back then were very similar to the arguments we have today too. One thing I learned from all of this is that both group will still doing well at the end. It ridiculous to have this conversation now when Nj is not even a year old group while it will take 4 to 5 years actually to see who will end up on the very top. Especially in this 4th gen we have 4 other top girl groups in the conversation.

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Both are closer to Twice, as their concept is teen pop variant, which does well in Korea.

BP is more girl crush and hip hop, which is what the international market likes. After the initial years, Twice changed their concept to a soft sexy one.

Both will most likely have to change their concept when they start targeting the west.

I'm not talking about their concept but about the group itself and their debut popularity. Ive is going to Twice route so far while Nj going to Bp route. Yet it's still ridiculous to debate thing as early as this

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always thought of it as a more snsd vs 2ne1 situation. most well known girl groups in an era where theres a ton of competition in the GG market, both newjeans & 2ne1 being more known with sounds & aesthetics tied to a specific time period in addition to just having more hits, etc.

ngl the fanwars are so tame compared to sones vs blackjacks & once vs blinks at their peak even aespa vs itzy was more entertaining imo but yeah they're kinda useless as they're head to head in pretty much everything. greatest thing about this gen is that there's so much girl group variety and domination and room for everyone to thrive and we should appreciate that

It's actually started to become more and more toxic but having a lot of top groups doing really great in one time in term of everything from digital to sales help a lot as their fans will not focus only on one 'enemy'. Which is why Bp vs Twice and Aespa vs Itzy fanwars were bloodbath, they have no one to attack other than eachother.