Do you think the bday girl was also at fault here?

Completely agree with your take. Elena’s brother is literal trash and sounds insufferable, and the girl that was with him too. Not even sure who I’m more pissed at right now. Everyone else is okay. The parents were nice to pay for her birthday party, she was right to snitch and Elena just wanted people to focus on her and not on her brother for once. That’s my assumption anyway. I do think leaving her homeless was a bit too far, even if accidental, and it would have been nice to pay for her tickets back, and let herself work things out there and at least deal with financial problems in a familiar place, but at the same time, she did break a very clear, very major rule that she knew would get her in trouble, so maybe she needs to learn her actions have consequences. I’m not sure what to think about that. Neither OP nor the birthday girl is in the wrong though, not by any stretch of the imagination.

this Elena's brother sounds interesting...

jokes aside - to me when someone else pays for the trip or food or a meal or generally anything they do sorta get to make the rules in regards to the enjoyment of whatever it is they are funding (within reason) and "don't sleep with xyz - when xyz happens to be the brother of the host and son of the people who are paying for said trip doesn't seem unreasonable to me. obviously it was not mentioned but hopefully the brother also had a "don't sleep with my friends rule" as well

given that I don't think the rule is unfair per se then it would seem that those who broke it - the brother and Chloe deserve "punishment"

the question is then whether the punishment of kicking someone out of the accommodation is reasonable. I can understand and see both perspectives but personally I wouldn't kick them out in a foreign country per se since that could be dangerous so I'd probably find alternative "punishment" for both of them!!! yes I said both since I didn't see the brother getting kicked out even though it would seem he is equally as culpable

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she cant kick the golden child from her parents house

she couldnt even stop him from joining her bday trip

so she relied on her friends, you know being her friend

I don't have enough information to determine whether he is a golden child or not

I also don't have enough information regarding whether he was invited or otherwise

(both of the above would be pertinent information to know)

I agree which is why this is a classic case of those in the wrong "shooting the messenger"

Her brother sounds like a piece of work, and I don't really get Elena hearing "There's a free trip to France on the ONE condition that you not fuck my brother" and her immediately deciding to do that.

The only way I could see bday girl being an asshole is if she literally left Elena homeless, but I don't believe that. Elena had a free trip! You can't tell me she didn't bring a phone and money/credit card with available credit for souvenirs at least. She can buy herself a flight back or call her own mom and dad.

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Idk why people at reddit are calling the bday girl an asshole too. It sounds like she is traumatized all her life with girls being friend with her to just bag her brother. I won't blame her for having a boundary of not wanting her friends going at her brother.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AmIth…iend_to_be_kicked_out_of/

Whos birthday

what happened? :o

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It's in the reddit thread

ok

Usually I agree with the majority on AITA but not here. Elena and OP did nothing wrong.

Elena's brother is the main AH here in a large way since he apparently has a habit of sleeping with her friends. I know technically grown adults can do whatever they want but anyone with common sense knows how uncomfortable that could make Elena and complicate her personal life . Plus he just sounds like a twat

Chloe had a relatively simple rule to follow. She broke it. Foreign country or not, she's out. That's on her, especially given how generous Elena was being to put them up like that.

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yeah to me it wasnt a sudden decision

They were informed of this boundary by the Bday girl long before the trip

It really sounds like the brother is the golden child , as the bday girl cant even take a tripe without him also showing up. She obv cant kick him out of their parents home either. So she relied on people who were supposed to be her friend to not ride that one D on their trip. Its a reasonable boundary, idk why reddit people think she is not allowed to have that boundary. She didnt say you cant bone him, she said you cant bone him and be my friend at the same time.

Couldn't agree more.