Which one is harder to achieve? 3 hits at once or 3 hit in 3 comebacks?

  • yes this is taken from Newjeans vs IVE, but it is not a comparision between these 2 groups so I hope there is not fight between them

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  • The former ofc. But I wouldn’t say cookie is a hit. Even hype boy is border line.

  • The former, except that Hype Boy and Attention are clearly hits and Cookie is borderline


    I genuinely wonder if other groups will try this very soon

  • but I'd say both are impressive and has any other kpop group done that in their first year? I think this year has the most successful kpop debuts

  • The key word here is "trendy"

    kchart don't chart with popular, they chart with who is trendy at that moment.


    If a group like Newjeans who is so trendy right now, they can definitely do a 3 song hit. However, the hard part doing so is they need to make the group trendy like Newjeans.


    The second part is also hard because you have to keep up the hype and continue to release good music and that the gp care about it. Group can be trendy at the moment, but they can also lost those hype after 1 comeback or so. We have many example.


    so for me I would definitely say 3 hit in 3 comebacks is harder.

  • Well looking at past history, the 3 hits from the same album is objectively much harder


    But I'm pretty sure the artist would prefer the second one, as with that one at least it guarantee they're not just a one time wonder and can actually replicate their success

  • 3 hits from the same album, 3 hits in 3 different comebacks is impressive to though, shows your not just a one hit wonder and have stable popularity. But 3 hits from one album is good for the overall discography

  • 3 hits from same album is much harder


    And not people her discrediting NJ. They literally debut and are having 3 songs charting on top10 / 15 simultaneously. IVE has the #1 song but bside is not charting high. So i think there is a difference here, and credits to NJ for able to do so

  • More impressive and maybe harder, 3 hits at once

    More worthy, 3 consecutive hits

  • both. but cookie is not a hit. new jeans situation was already done by blackpink in their debut. for ive, they're comparable to twice 2016.


    i'm more impressed with ive though since they don't have a big company backing them up and they're only getting stronger each comeback. the reason why blackpink and newjeans had a good debut was because they have a refreshing concept in their eras but more importantly, they're backed by big companies. hype will always be there.

  • 3 hits from same album is much harder


    And not people her discrediting NJ. They literally debut and are having 3 songs charting on top10 / 15 simultaneously. IVE has the #1 song but bside is not charting high. So i think there is a difference here, and credits to NJ for able to do so


    Well looking at past history, the 3 hits from the same album is objectively much harder


    But I'm pretty sure the artist would prefer the second one, as with that one at least it guarantee they're not just a one time wonder and can actually replicate their success


    The different is that most group usually only have 1 title track + other b-side. There is barely group will have 3 title tracks in a single album with all of them having a MV and promotion which make a huge different why there is no other people able to do so. IVE b-side not doing well because most gp doesn't listen to b-side and IVE not promoting them is also a factor.


    Title track obviously doesn't mean that it will do well and the number they get is impressive on it own for sure.


    For the first one, what I'm hoping people get is that what if they have the same requirement? What if a group also have 3 title tracks with MV and promotion instead of 3 b-side without promotion? What the possible for all 3 songs to chart high?

  • In general, the former is harder.

    You not only need to have a hit with the title tracks which is already hard, but you also need to have 2 more hits from a b-side which is an impossible task.


    However, Newjeans is a special case where they have 3 title tracks in an album that mean Attention, Hype Boy and Cookie have a chance to hit big just like any other group title tracks(Eleven, Love Dive, After LIKE, Girls, Fearless, etc...). Therefore, it is the same, or 3 hit in a row is a little bit harder in this case.


    In order for a group's song to hit big not only you need to be "the moment" or popular, but also the song need to be good and appeal to the public. Both Newjeans and IVE is "the moemnt" right now and both of them release good music that the public like. You can be "the moment" right now, but can you keep up the hype and continually making good music and chart good? There is a reason why many group failed to make 3 hits in a row, but IVE did it.


    That why in this case, I would say having 3 hits in a row is harder.

  • I think having 3 hits in a row is harder. There are many many examples of groups that were the next big thing only to be dumped for the next next big thing. Why do you think Sistar's accomplishments still stands despite the growth of the gg market?

  • I think having 3 hits in a row is harder. There are many many examples of groups that were the next big thing only to be dumped for the next next big thing. Why do you think Sistar's accomplishments still stands despite the growth of the gg market?

    True, but having consecutive hits has happened before in gg charting, with the now-epic runs that Twice, SNSD and Wonder Girls have done.


    A gg with 3 hits all competing with each other, all simultaneously in the Top 10 of Melon consistently, for 2 whole months, in summer, is unheard of.

  • 3 hits from same album is much harder


    And not people her discrediting NJ. They literally debut and are having 3 songs charting on top10 / 15 simultaneously. IVE has the #1 song but bside is not charting high. So i think there is a difference here, and credits to NJ for able to do so

    Not you comparing 2 songs with own mv and music show performances each to a bside that is only performed on events :clown: the lack of common sense some of you Hybe stans have

  • True, but having consecutive hits has happened before in gg charting, with the now-epic runs that Twice, SNSD and Wonder Girls have done.


    A gg with 3 hits all competing with each other, all simultaneously in the Top 10 of Melon consistently, for 2 whole months, in summer, is unheard of.

    I think we cannot compare with other ggs because there is no group in history have release 3 title tracks in an album which play a very important role in Newjeans's success of having 3 title tracks in an album.

  • True, but having consecutive hits has happened before in gg charting, with the now-epic runs that Twice, SNSD and Wonder Girls have done.


    A gg with 3 hits all competing with each other, all simultaneously in the Top 10 of Melon consistently, for 2 whole months, in summer, is unheard of.

    This is because it’s less common to release three title tracks simultaneously. It’s still very impressive.

  • both. but cookie is not a hit. new jeans situation was already done by blackpink in their debut.

    i'd say that is Not exactly true. Whistle was a hit yes... but Boombayah peaked at #12 on Melon Daily (still high af) while Hype Boy and Attention peaked Top 5 (at one point on realtime charts it was #1 Attention and #2 HB) and cookie in the top 10.

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