Why are NEWJEANS fans so insecure about IVE?

    Why do Nj fans always deflect their scandals and MHJ problems to IVE and their age as if their situations are the same? Are they jealous against IVEs exponential SUCCESS which is why they dissect every one of their songs?


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    So when youtubers say "let's dive into it" they're talking about sex? :/ the reach

    not jealous but more so trying to push their scandals to other groups


    tbh some of the things I see people dragging newjeans/mhj for happens in other groups with minors but that doesn't give them the right to drag other groups down with them


    but this has like no engagements you should see how bad it is for aespa on twt

    they get it way worse than anyone they are the literal punching bags of kpop rn and it's just cause they are from SM also the most successful

    Are we going to ignore the massive insecurity ive fans show towards newjeans success because it doesn’t align with your narrative or :pepe-clown-gear:

    The reach.


    You can tell that they seem to not get the fact that the "cookie" itself is not the problem. It's the context in which it is used. "Dive in" in this context refers to nothing other than love. That loving being literally narcissistic. Meaning.... with themselves.


    Did they even listen to the song before they attempted to deflect or are they just stupid? :clown:

    Why would they be jealous when newjeans are smashing at debut with 3 songs?

    They seem upset that newjeans are held to a different standard compared to other groups.

    I see k-pop twt call newjeans stans pedos for stanning "14 y/o's" but will stan IVE, StayC and other groups with minors.

    The issues mainly exists on PC "woke" spaces and I personally don't even agree with bringing up IVE or any other group.

    there was a big debate on twt about take it lyrics and ive's sexualisation out of nowhere. no one accused ive of this before newjeans controversy when they gained fans.

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    What insecurity? Ive just had a national hit, sold 920k first week, and are the most global group, charting on spotify only behind bts and blackpink. newjeans is not the same

    so you’re just purposefully ignoring the behavior ive stans have showcased towards newjeans in droves while crying about an irrelevant tweet with not even 30 likes. got it :yesr:

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    there was a big debate on twt about take it lyrics and ive's sexualisation out of nowhere. no one accused ive of this before newjeans controversy when they gained fans.

    OP are you even a DIVE? This isn't true many people kept bringing up Leeseo since last month and even mentioned LD being about s*x when cookie scandal was thing

    It's not out of nowhere but if you keep bringing it up you will make issues bigger for DIVE so please stop bringing drama to us. IVE been getting hate since debut Leeseo teaser even got ratio

    Tired of anon trying to start war for DIVE leave IVE alone please you have agenda for them go mention sm group or something!!!!!!

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    The reach.


    You can tell that they seem to not get the fact that the "cookie" itself is not the problem. It's the context in which it is used. "Dive in" in this context refers to nothing other than love. That loving being literally narcissistic. Meaning.... with themselves.


    Did they even listen to the song before they attempted to deflect or are they just stupid? :clown:

    Exactly. Dive as how Narcissus dived in the lake because he fell in love with his own image. It's literally the concept of the song, from Loved Ive to Wonyoung's mirror choreo. It's literally SAID in the song. "Narcissistic, my god I love it". Lol.

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    ive stans are the ones doing the most to drag new jeans' age even on this forum but now you're crying? playing victim much?

    Show it please, and no, viva isn't counted. If you take viva seriously it's on your own. And also not that #bot


    my god I just realized so many trolls here, don't make me hate NJ fans please



    Ugh this is not the problem. We should held the company accountable for this. Well, I hope NJ won't use Cookie's song writer again. Let's stick with Attention, Hurt

    This is what you got when your fandom is consisting of army

    viva is one of them but they're not the only one. i know many ive stans here are very salty about new jeans's success, just go to some new jeans' early threads before their songs dropped and dominated the charts, you would see a bunch of ive stans making shady comments about njs' age and basic music and calling people delusional for expecting new jeans to top the charts etc... maybe even you are one of them lol but y'all will never admit it.

    i've fans are just now learning why they shouldn't throw stones from glass houses.


    stirring controversy on new jeans ages/sexualizing minors would be bound to blow up in their face when they have wonyoung and leeseo right there. honestly ive fans should just try to sit still and ignore all "minors in kpop" talk unless they want wonyoung's side to side fancam to blow up again

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