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vocals
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dance
stage presence
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the set up.
both are good
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they are both talented
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I don’t know who spread this lie. Just because some of their songs has collaborators, you think they didn’t write their song? I noticed rumour this started around 2019 onwards, especially by other BG stans. Before 2019, there was no peep about this and everyone knows they can write and produce their songs. I guess their fame made people want to discredit them.
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Stray kidz has some of the worst music in the entirety of kpop. I would vote for any group above them
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I don’t know who spread this lie. Just because some of their songs has collaborators, you think they didn’t write their song? I noticed rumour this started around 2019 onwards, especially by other BG stans. Before 2019, there was no peep about this and everyone knows they can write and produce their songs. I guess their fame made people want to discredit them.
BTS know when to branch out with collaborators especially with new styles, which is just being smart.
3Racha have produced some incredible title tracks but they're perceived by casuals as having one sound, and I think thats because the non rap heavy tracks just aren't at TT quality. 3Racha style hasn't shown diversity yet.
Stage presence is BTS no doubt, but no surprise they've had way more live experience.
Wish you included a category for production and lyrics because of the self-produced nature of both groups.
Dance is close but SKZ edges out
Rap is BTS.
Vocals is BTS.
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Gonna go with the groups that's sold out stadiums all over the world, topped the charts everywhere in the world and has sold more then the entire kpop industry. The other group? I've never even heard a song of theirs by mistake.
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I don’t know who spread this lie. Just because some of their songs has collaborators, you think they didn’t write their song? I noticed rumour this started around 2019 onwards, especially by other BG stans. Before 2019, there was no peep about this and everyone knows they can write and produce their songs. I guess their fame made people want to discredit them.
It is the truth. It’s obvious that they only participate in writing some portions of their rap. But after that they don’t do anything for BTS musically. Armys like to spread lies that BTS is a self collapsed group. I don’t blame them because it got them to be really popular. But I’m not that gullible.
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BTS know when to branch out with collaborators especially with new styles, which is just being smart.
3Racha have produced some incredible title tracks but they're perceived by casuals as having one sound, and I think thats because the non rap heavy tracks just aren't at TT quality. 3Racha style hasn't shown diversity yet.
Stage presence is BTS no doubt, but no surprise they've had way more live experience.
Wish you included a category for production and lyrics because of the self-produced nature of both groups.
Dance is close but SKZ edges out
Rap is BTS.
Vocals is BTS.
vocal definitely skz rap same dance skz
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This simply isn't true.
They just haven't had as much success with their vocal-heavy/less rap-heavy title tracks. But they have had them. I Am You, the title track of their second comeback mini of the same title, got overshadowed by the previous My Pace, as I Am You had a mellow, emotional, poppy sound compared to all their previous title tracks, which were rap-heavy and mixed rock and EDM sounds, and SKZ's established fanbase was kinda small, so non-fan reception was detrimental. (I still think a lot about what would've happened had they went with the original, more hip-hop oriented demo.) Then they followed that up with Miroh, an infectiously catchy and bold future bounce track which once again, overshadowed I Am You. Levanter, the title track of their 3rd mini in 2019, was basically all vocals no rap and featured a soft rock sound, also got unlucky. The insane bandwagon hate they got for the experimental Side Effects, and the whole KWJ mess unfortunately axed most of casual listener support. And once again, stays weren't really a big fandom back then, not that much bigger than atinys and certainly not more than moas. The fandom began growing right after Levanter. TOP/Slump brought in a lot of anime fans, and in general, if you looked at their social media stats, you could feel that their next comeback was bound to be bigger than anything they had done before, even before God's Menu actually got released. God's Menu marked a change in musical direction for their Korean title tracks, but I'll talk about this later. Either way, Scars, a Japanese title track for single album, was also more vocal focused than anything, but Japanese title tracks hardly ever get a lot of attention from non-fans. Last year, they also had has Winter Falls, the second title track of Christmas EveL, but obviously it didn't get the same treatment as Christmas EveL itself; the MV was released later, and since the single album got no promotion, the virality of Christmas EveL easily overshadowed it.
Moreover, Stray Kids are pretty known for their high quality bsides and for having one of the most diverse discographies in kpop. So that excuse says a lot about how much you know about them...
A lot of their popular bsides are actually not exactly rap focused. Silent Cry, Blueprint, Phobia, Red Lights, etc.
It is a deliberate choice from 3RACHA to make "hype" title tracks with prominent rap. With God's Menu, they got plenty of praise for creating a "mala-taste genre". The way they presented themselves indeed did change. (Although you could already feel that with TOP.) In short, it became cooler and more self-assured, allowing for larger-than-life concepts. "Mala-taste genre" became a vessel for 3RACHA to encompass everything Stray Kids stand for, albeit in different flavours every time: confidence, passion for their craft, a hint of rebellion, in a song that allows SKZ to show their performance skills, their rap skills, and their vocal skills all at the same time. As I've said, this isn't trying to recreate a previous song because all four titles since have been very different, it really is more like a "genre" exclusive to Stray Kids, even though the songs don't actually share recognised musical genres. It's more of a...philosophy? An approach to songwriting? Many other groups would be certainly happy to have a firm yet versatile identity like they do.
Regardless, they make sure that other kinds of songs get exposure too, through MVs, music and award show performances, and other performances. Like they promoted the upbeat tropical house The View alongside Thunderous, and the bittersweet ballad Ex along Back Door, etc.
I could make the same ridiculous claims about BTS, but I'm not going to, because it's at least I have the integrity to admit I haven't listened to their entire discography, and pretending to have insight while not having it is a little bit funny.
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This thread and everyone who takes it seriously are pathetic. OP made several threads comparing SKZ to other groups knowing that this site is filled with skz antis (lmao don't think you guys are not transparent) who will either simply use the chance to hate on skz, or aren't stays but pretend to be to hate on bts, in hopes that it will set actual fans against each other.
The timing is not a coincidence either, obviously. ridiculous
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vocals > Same level, however Jungkook vocal is the strongest among all of them.
rap > No comparison - RM and Suga particularly were underground rapper. Jhope flow is insane too. BTS trio rappers are one of the best, rappers that 100% write, produce and compose. BTS album + Mixtapes + Producing other idols/artists + OST + theme song, name it all. 3Racha have the potential to be like RM, SUGA and JHOPE one day.
dance > Both are at the same level, but SKZ might beat BTS soon due age criteria.
stage presence > There is a reason why BTS is the biggest act in the world now, even they were not from Big 3 when they debut - it's their crazy STAGE PRESENCE.
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This simply isn't true.
They just haven't had as much success with their vocal-heavy/less rap-heavy title tracks. But they have had them. I Am You, the title track of their second comeback mini of the same title, got overshadowed by the previous My Pace, as I Am You had a mellow, emotional, poppy sound compared to all their previous title tracks, which were rap-heavy and mixed rock and EDM sounds, and SKZ's established fanbase was kinda small, so non-fan reception was detrimental. (I still think a lot about what would've happened had they went with the original, more hip-hop oriented demo.) Then they followed that up with Miroh, an infectiously catchy and bold future bounce track which once again, overshadowed I Am You. Levanter, the title track of their 3rd mini in 2019, was basically all vocals no rap and featured a soft rock sound, also got unlucky. The insane bandwagon hate they got for the experimental Side Effects, and the whole KWJ mess unfortunately axed most of casual listener support. And once again, stays weren't really a big fandom back then, not that much bigger than atinys and certainly not more than moas. The fandom began growing right after Levanter. TOP/Slump brought in a lot of anime fans, and in general, if you looked at their social media stats, you could feel that their next comeback was bound to be bigger than anything they had done before, even before God's Menu actually got released. God's Menu marked a change in musical direction for their Korean title tracks, but I'll talk about this later. Either way, Scars, a Japanese title track for single album, was also more vocal focused than anything, but Japanese title tracks hardly ever get a lot of attention from non-fans. Last year, they also had has Winter Falls, the second title track of Christmas EveL, but obviously it didn't get the same treatment as Christmas EveL itself; the MV was released later, and since the single album got no promotion, the virality of Christmas EveL easily overshadowed it.
Moreover, Stray Kids are pretty known for their high quality bsides and for having one of the most diverse discographies in kpop. So that excuse says a lot about how much you know about them...
A lot of their popular bsides are actually not exactly rap focused. Silent Cry, Blueprint, Phobia, Red Lights, etc.
It is a deliberate choice from 3RACHA to make "hype" title tracks with prominent rap. With God's Menu, they got plenty of praise for creating a "mala-taste genre". The way they presented themselves indeed did change. (Although you could already feel that with TOP.) In short, it became cooler and more self-assured, allowing for larger-than-life concepts. "Mala-taste genre" became a vessel for 3RACHA to encompass everything Stray Kids stand for, albeit in different flavours every time: confidence, passion for their craft, a hint of rebellion, in a song that allows SKZ to show their performance skills, their rap skills, and their vocal skills all at the same time. As I've said, this isn't trying to recreate a previous song because all four titles since have been very different, it really is more like a "genre" exclusive to Stray Kids, even though the songs don't actually share recognised musical genres. It's more of a...philosophy? An approach to songwriting? Many other groups would be certainly happy to have a firm yet versatile identity like they do.
Regardless, they make sure that other kinds of songs get exposure too, through MVs, music and award show performances, and other performances. Like they promoted the upbeat tropical house The View alongside Thunderous, and the bittersweet ballad Ex along Back Door, etc.
I could make the same ridiculous claims about BTS, but I'm not going to, because it's at least I have the integrity to admit I haven't listened to their entire discography, and pretending to have insight while not having it is a little bit funny.
Appreciate the effort but I'm sorry bro, 3Racha aren't sought out producers for outside groups. Suga alone is a hit monster and that's been evident since Wine lol. They know how to work with female and male artists. Creating a genre that is defined by not being a genre isn't impressive
BTS are better producers and that's a function of their experience as well as talent, not much SKZ can do to beat that rn
Stage presence wise, BTS are a shoo in also. Hyunjin and Han are highlights but some of the others (not gonna name names cause that's needlessly anti) are clearly not comfortable on stage, again probably because of their inexperience. Some are barely above awkward when not relying on choreo onstage.
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That alone shows once again you don't know shit about them. They have actually produced for other artists.
Stage presence wise, BTS are a shoo in also. Hyunjin and Han are highlights but some of the others (not gonna name names cause that's needlessly anti) are clearly not comfortable on stage, again probably because of their inexperience. Some are barely above awkward when not relying on choreo onstage.
tf are you sayingseriously I can only laugh at you
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As if this isn’t biased.
Bts all the way and it’s not even close
Y'all are the ones who are biased here :)
Saying Bts are better than Skz just because they happen to be more popular and charted better. And just because some may have been underground before they became idols does not mean they're automatically better in my opinion.
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I am the only actual stay here I can assure you. You know very well this is YOUR fandom and trolls who stan neither groups. At least it is much more likely, since many of you DO anti skz, if they were actual stays they'd have to be all people who only come here to use anons. It's obvious which option has a higher probability.
and Woojin wasn't shit compared to Seungmin now. It's better if that's all I say about your comment...
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Objectively BTS
K-pop stans will pretend that BTS is not talented but they have more talented members individually than other groups.
Stage presence : there are few groups as commanding as BTS is on stage and even these groups lack the versatility that BTS has as performers.
Rap : I could give skz props for speed and technique but rapping involves more than that. Let's talk lyricism, let's talk wordplay, let's talk delivery etc. Well we
know for sure no one is touching RM's lyricism, nor his delivery and wordplay
What annoys me about skz rappers is that they don't stand out individually unlike bts. I always thought there was only one rapper in that group. The guy with the deep voice stands out the most and he is practically half a rapper.
Dance : are you really going to lie to yourself and say that there is a skz member better at dancing than Jimin or even a skz member that can beat Jhope at freestyle?
Vocals : for this one idk, it depends on preference really
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Rap : I could give skz props for speed and technique but rapping involves more than that. Let's talk lyricism, let's talk wordplay, let's talk delivery etc. Well we
know for sure no one is touching RM's lyricism, nor his delivery and wordplay
What annoys me about skz rappers is that they don't stand out individually unlike bts. I always thought there was only one rapper in that group. The guy with the deep voice stands out the most and he is practically half a rapper.
This, SKZ often comes off as "Changbin + his friends" sometimes
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