SM stans need to pick a side

  • 1. MHJ is nothing in SM, she's just a staff person, she wasn't responsible for all the 'masterpiece concepts' at SM. There are other staffs involved and LSM himself.


    2. MHJ is responsible for every dirty concepts in SM. She is the mastermind behind them all, other staffs who? we don't care


    Which side are you on? :eyes:

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  • MHJ was just one person in a whole team, she didn't build SM or was solely responsible for the success of their groups like many are claiming, besides, the controversial details didn't define those concept, they were just details.

    But if those details are going to carry over to her new company, new projects and new group then it's safe to speculate that, albeit she wasn't solely responsible for SM groups' success and concepts, she was likely responsible for the controversial details.

  • MHJ was just one person in a whole team, she didn't build SM or was solely responsible for the success of their groups like many are claiming, besides, the controversial details didn't define those concept, they were just details.

    But if those details are going to carry over to her new company, new projects and new group then it's safe to speculate that, albeit she wasn't solely responsible for SM groups' success and concepts, she was likely responsible for the controversial details.

    oh so you mean she's not responsible for the goods but the bads? lol how convenient

  • MHJ was just one person in a whole team, she didn't build SM or was solely responsible for the success of their groups like many are claiming, besides, the controversial details didn't define those concept, they were just details.

    But if those details are going to carry over to her new company, new projects and new group then it's safe to speculate that, albeit she wasn't solely responsible for SM groups' success and concepts, she was likely responsible for the controversial details.

    So, the key takeaway points :pepe-wink: are...


    SM was responsible for all the good stuff while MHJ was solely responsible for the "controversial" parts. Typical. pepe-ooh

  • Both are true. The only group that MHJ was heavily involved in was fx and to much lesser extent Shinee and (maybe) Red Velvet. To say that MHJ carried SM in terms of concept is absolutely wrong as she was only involved in little bits here and there for other SM groups.

    On the other hand it's true that some of the concept that she's involved in was questionable. But she wasn't as famous as she is or held a position as important as she has today so SM as the company also received part of the blame, not just her. Back then people were not only calling her out but also SM contrary to what happen now where MHJ herself receive the majority of the blame.

    Lastly, yall need to understand that SM has dozens of groups and each of these groups' fans are not going to think the same. Like MeUs might be fine with MHJ, but Shawols are not fine with her. And these two are groups from the exact same period of time.

  • Both are true. The only group that MHJ was heavily involved in was fx and to much lesser extent Shinee and (maybe) Red Velvet. To say that MHJ carried SM in terms of concept is absolutely wrong as she was only involved in little bits here and there for other SM groups.

    On the other hand it's true that some of the concept that she's involved in was questionable. But she wasn't as famous as she is or held a position as important as she has today so SM as the company also received part of the blame, not just her. Back then people were not only calling her out but also SM contrary to what happen now where MHJ herself receive the majority of the blame.

    Lastly, yall need to understand that SM has dozens of groups and each of these groups' fans are not going to think the same. Like MeUs might be fine with MHJ, but Shawols are not fine with her. And these two are groups from the exact same period of time.

    why now seems like plenty SM stans all came together to remember the past?


    Seems like all these SM group fans think the same now :pepe-smug:

  • 1. Min Heejin is the CEO of your new sub label so you should shield her. She was a nobody but suddenly she's the THING now that she's in hybe.


    2. Ewww SM


    Pick a side Hybe stans

  • oh so you mean she's not responsible for the goods but the bads? lol how convenient


    So, the key takeaway points :pepe-wink: are...


    SM was responsible for all the good stuff while MHJ was solely responsible for the "controversial" parts. Typical. pepe-ooh

    It's a fact that she wasn't solely responsible for the concepts she worked on. And it's also a fact that the controversial things people complained about in the past are now carrying over to her new company. What explanation do you have for it?

  • 1. Min Heejin is the CEO of your new sub label so you should shield her. She was a nobody but suddenly she's the THING now that she's in hybe.


    2. Ewww SM


    Pick a side Hybe stans

    exactly. hybe stans should look at themselves on the mirror more often. they'd be trashing MHJ and her work to the depths of hell if she were working with NCT and Aespa instead.

    everything related to SM is bad until it is no longer in SM.

  • there's nothing wrong with new jeans' concept.

    most of the allegations were things she did when she was at sm.

    And those things got criticised when she was in SM. The only difference is then the criticism was directed at SM because most people didn't know who she was. Now people know she's the one responsible thanks to hybe's media play about her.

  • exactly. hybe stans should look at themselves on the mirror more often. they'd be trashing MHJ and her work to the depths of hell if she were working with NCT and Aespa instead.

    everything related to SM is bad until it is no longer in SM.

    hybe stans don't even know who mhj was before she joined hybe. do hybe stans even exist when she's with sm lmao? most of the drags were towards lsm and his ai/robotic concepts that probably have nothing to do with mhj. now sm stans want to lie and pretend most kpop stans, sm & hybe stans included, didn't praise f(x)/red velvet concepts as masterpiece before?

  • And those things got criticised when she was in SM. The only difference is then the criticism was directed at SM because most people didn't know who she was. Now people know she's the one responsible thanks to hybe's media play about her.

    another sm stan on main said the shawol fandom always knew mhj and have always criticized her when she was at sm though. y'all sm stans need to seriously pick a narrative.

  • why now seems like plenty SM stans all came together to remember the past?


    Seems like all these SM group fans think the same now :pepe-smug:

    What are you talking about? The thing that made her weirdness very obvious is her instagram with those creepy pictures that she posted there. Her instagram was created only in 2021.

    And by this "yall need to understand that SM has dozens of groups and each of these groups' fans are not going to think the same. Like MeUs might be fine with MHJ, but Shawols are not fine with her" i mean that some group's fans might be okay with the concept that MHJ created for their bias but clearly some other group's fans were not okay with what she gave to their bias. That's the difference. Now with the revelation of her instagram posts everyone can make connection to her past projects and see how weird it is.

  • For the anon peeps:
    UPDATE on Min Heejin Witch-hunt + Clarification with Receipts

    I would like to see what those loud sm stans who keep on accusing her with these allegations have to say about this?

    So much for "we've always known this about her!!!" it turns out it wasn't even her that did those problematic photoshoots lol i hope they keep the same energy for all those sm staffs that were in the credits who are STILL working with their favs. It's time to pray for SM idols' well-beings :pepe-pray:

  • its obviously jealousy. SM will lose having the best 4th gg and they dont even hv a 4th bg Like how YG ( BP) and Big Hit ( BTS) are the best in 3rd gen or even until now. Despite the heavy spending and media play , a new gg can beat them in less than a yr in popularity. I would love to see the superiority complex going down the drain. The hypocrisy for this witchhunt at its finest

  • another sm stan on main said the shawol fandom always knew mhj and have always criticized her when she was at sm though. y'all sm stans need to seriously pick a narrative.

    do you know how many groups and fandoms there are in SM? maybe you should stop treating all of us like a monolith? MHJ worked mostly with SHINee and f(x) and that's why their fans were more familiar with her than say TVXQ or SNSD or SUJU or EXO fans. for the huge majority of kpop fans, including most SM stans, the criticism was directed at SM as a company because they didn't know MHJ, exactly like how in most concept controversies, kpop fans criticise the companies and not the art directors or the staff behind the scenes. MHJ is a different case because of the wau HYBE promoted her and made her the face of the group, they were like "here is the art director, now you know whom to criticise"

  • its obviously jealousy. SM will lose having the best 4th gg and they dont even hv a 4th bg Like how YG ( BP) and Big Hit ( BTS) are the best in 3rd gen or even until now. Despite the heavy spending and media play , a new gg can beat them in less than a yr in popularity. I would love to see the superiority complex going down the drain. The hypocrisy for this witchhunt at its finest

    Espa is clear of newflops

  • its obviously jealousy. SM will lose having the best 4th gg and they dont even hv a 4th bg Like how YG ( BP) and Big Hit ( BTS) are the best in 3rd gen or even until now. Despite the heavy spending and media play , a new gg can beat them in less than a yr in popularity. I would love to see the superiority complex going down the drain. The hypocrisy for this witchhunt at its finest

    SM stans will be ( borrowing Mys' word) Aeskarmaed again?

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