Do you think KPop will continue to maintain its reaches in 2024 when IU becomes the ranking act , shoving off the 4th Generation?

  • Personally I can't wait for the dark ages.



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    If that happens KPop will be gone from people's memory, just like the Mongols who were not remembered after they left.


    She will unleash her unlimited hatred on KPop to the newer acts.


    In the end, the landowner has the last laugh, and since she kind is associated with Melon, she gets the final laugh over the expense of 4th Generation.

  • actually 2014-2016 were the 'dark ages' of KPop. 2014, following the infamous ferry incident, made Kpop depressed, and until Cheer Up KPop was heading back to the dungeon.


    So she did hinder KPop's expansion to the west.

    Are you alleging she caused the Ferry tragedy?


    And are you forgetting that she didn't do any music in 2016.


    Anyway, there is no logic required for conspiracy theories.


    And in 2017, your supposed year of recovery, among BTS, BP, Twice, BOL4 etc. Guess who again dominated in S.Korea?

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  • Yes, but KPop needs a better leader who can lead it to a new renaissance. Someone who is against everything Kpop strives for will not lead it to anywhere big

    Well that's not IU or Korean's responsibility is it?


    They are simply doing what they enjoy.


    Koreans or anyone aren't going to suppress their own tastes too support cockamamie theories.


    If K-pop as an industry is so fragile that it can be derailed by any one act, then it deserves to be derailed.

  • WhyKnock

    Are you on twitter?


    Today I stumbled on a lot of i-fans angry that J-Hope's pre-release is not doing well and accusing Koreans as lacking taste, part of which is directed towards IU as the only soloist they vibe to.


    You should find lot of support for your pro-International/anti-Korean stuff.


    But you have to manage within 140 characters :-P

  • Also I see both BTS and Twice fans, hope that their soloists get invited to Palette.


    So even if she does not release music, she is building up to be the successor to Yoon Dohyun and Yoo Hee Yeol, still in a different way.


    A sort of Anna Wintour for Kpop and on YouTube, independent of even the broadcasting channels.


    So her position is increasingly independent of the successes/failures of her own music or the dynamics of K-pop

  • She benefited the most from the tragedy, which led her to almost end KPop on that year. Only MNet giving her a Lifetime Achievement Award saved KPop at taht time.


    In 2017 IU had to share power with the acts you named above. In 2024 there appears to be no strong challenger to share power with her.

  • It is probably better to do things like that since she will do that in her own schedule.


    YHY is a weekly show so sometimes it has to fill slots and invite people who are marginal. Lee Jieun is unlikely to do so.


    IN that way she can prop up people she likes.

  • I don't write anything at twitter. I only write at here, and another forum only occasionally.


    But it is good to see the i-fans finally realizing that Korean tastes are detrimental for the growth of KPop and a permanent lift is being created.

  • I don't write anything at twitter. I only write at here, and another forum only occasionally.


    But it is good to see the i-fans finally realizing that Korean tastes are detrimental for the growth of KPop and a permanent lift is being created.

    Don't be happy, they are delusional.


    The reasons they give for J-Hopes solo not doing well are hilarious,


    #1. Koreans are beauty obsessed, so aren't supporting J-Hope.

    Apparently they never heard of the success of Leenalchi or Hyukoh, bands not known for their looks.


    #2. Koreans need MVs to appreciate music.

    Well they forgot your favourite whose B-sides chart high. Love Poem.


    But that's why you will be a good fit.

    Koreans don't appreciate K-pop.

    Hindus don't understand Yoga.

    Italians aren't good with pizzas.


    Even if all these have become global and others have mastered the act, only the utterly delusional will diss against the originators of a cultural product.

  • IU has been the ranking act in S.Korea since 2011.

    IU (musically) is not the ranking act in the West and probably never will be.


    BTS, BP - ascendency didn't change that, descendency will not change that either

    3rd gen didn't, 4th gen will not either.


    Many will try to replicate the success of BTS. But no company is even interested in trying to replicate IU, for she is an anamoly, even among soloists.


    So this is a meaningless concern.

  • What is amazing is all these KPop acts fought around a massive detriment inside Korea, knowing IU can strike their back any time she felt like.


    What made it worse is the habit of Koreans dumping the KPop figures and the nonKPop figures (IU only until around 2020, although now Lim Youngwoong is sometimes thrown into the basket too) together in one basket., which mandates another essay which I don't have time for now.


    So no matter how much successes these KPop acts have outside of Korea, the domestic opinion always compared them with her. It didn't matter that IU (and now LYW) would never amount to anything in the West; in the perception of K-O-R-E-A-N-S who could care less about what the people of the West thought about the various acts, they were competing in the same league, which led to all these adjustments which created difficulties for the Kpop acts

  • iu is really basic. There's nothing interesting about her.

    Someone described her boring music as music meant for cafes and I agree. I haven't liked her songs since 2015? That tt from Zeze about money. Good day is a cute song too, but other than that she's overrated. She's like Taylor Swift to me(overrated af and not a talented genius icon her fans think she is), but at least some of T's songs are catchy, like Style or Wildest dreams. Iu songs are like those japanese cute songs used for cute animals background music on tiktok.

    She also got boring stage presence. I'm not saying she needs to be making h*rny faces 24/7 like some gg stans love to use that excuse to justify their faves poor performing skills (Hi, Winter);no, I'm not a bg stan. I watched her stages and she performs like a little kid or a kid performing n school talent show. At least those flop has been groups u say they are are entertaining to watch. Even if it was for free, I wouldn't go to her concerts. She gets away with all of that because of her cute face and her songs suit Koreans' taste. Now that she built her brand, anything she releases will get #1.

    She's an unremarkable actress like all those idol actors are. 70% of all tv actors can't act and have 3 limited expressions. Give them real complicated roles and they will fold like a paper.

    I'm sure she's iconic to Korea and all her fans, but show her to an average citizen overseas and they will just side eye you.

  • iu is really basic. There's nothing interesting about her.

    Someone described her boring music as music meant for cafes and I agree. I haven't liked her songs since 2015? That tt from Zeze about money. Good day is a cute song too, but other than that she's overrated. She's like Taylor Swift to me(overrated af and not a talented genius icon her fans think she is), but at least some of T's songs are catchy, like Style or Wildest dreams. Iu songs are like those japanese cute songs used for cute animals background music on tiktok.

    She also got boring stage presence. I'm not saying she needs to be making h*rny faces 24/7 like some gg stans love to use that excuse to justify their faves poor performing skills (Hi, Winter);no, I'm not a bg stan. I watched her stages and she performs like a little kid or a kid performing n school talent show. At least those flop has been groups u say they are are entertaining to watch. Even if it was for free, I wouldn't go to her concerts. She gets away with all of that because of her cute face and her songs suit Koreans' taste. Now that she built her brand, anything she releases will get #1.

    She's an unremarkable actress like all those idol actors are. 70% of all tv actors can't act and have 3 limited expressions. Give them real complicated roles and they will fold like a paper.

    I'm sure she's iconic to Korea and all her fans, but show her to an average citizen overseas and they will just side eye you.

    She does know how to please the K-O-R-E-A-N-S and does not really make music to appeal to the foreigners, knowing she has no appeal for them.


    She also only knows one style of acting ; that of a street urchin, when she is now facing 30 now. Even Suzy is trying a serious , psychological role in her recent drama; Lee Jieun is incapable of that.


    But for whatever reason, the K-O-R-E-A-N-S find her comforting. And that crowds out KPop and leads to disastrous results.

  • iu is really basic. There's nothing interesting about her.

    Someone described her boring music as music meant for cafes and I agree. I haven't liked her songs since 2015? That tt from Zeze about money. Good day is a cute song too, but other than that she's overrated. She's like Taylor Swift to me(overrated af and not a talented genius icon her fans think she is), but at least some of T's songs are catchy, like Style or Wildest dreams. Iu songs are like those japanese cute songs used for cute animals background music on tiktok.

    She also got boring stage presence. I'm not saying she needs to be making h*rny faces 24/7 like some gg stans love to use that excuse to justify their faves poor performing skills (Hi, Winter);no, I'm not a bg stan. I watched her stages and she performs like a little kid or a kid performing n school talent show. At least those flop has been groups u say they are are entertaining to watch. Even if it was for free, I wouldn't go to her concerts. She gets away with all of that because of her cute face and her songs suit Koreans' taste. Now that she built her brand, anything she releases will get #1.

    She's an unremarkable actress like all those idol actors are. 70% of all tv actors can't act and have 3 limited expressions. Give them real complicated roles and they will fold like a paper.

    I'm sure she's iconic to Korea and all her fans, but show her to an average citizen overseas and they will just side eye you.

    Well different folks different strokes.


    Poor IU will have to manage without your stamp of approval.

    And Taylor Swift as well.


    Thankfully Koreans overwhelmingly have a different taste than you do

    At least they don't presume to speak on behalf of few billion "Average citizen overseas" .


    Korean PDs and now an acclaimed director like Koreeda also seem to have poor judgement compared to your incomparable expertise in acting.


    And IU, as she herself said "You can't satisfy everyone, but have to find people who appreciate what you do"

    She has found them in Koreans and others.

    And seems content with it.

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