Posts by Queeeenie

  • The GP seems to love PTD

    Quote from paradis

    I am not reading all of this. Sorry.


    I am enjoying this comeback, I am done with the negativity. Please carry on.

    Okay, well it's all there anyway. You quoted me and misunderstood what it was I had issue with in the comment (or just cherry picked one thing) and so I thought I should be specific with my thoughts.

    My first post summed it up.

    It wasn't about it being a gift, that's fine.


    The negativity started with them saying (amongst other things) that other army who didn't like the song should be the supporting the song more than the gp, which is ridiculous, but if you are okay with and agree with all that, then there is nothing more to say.


    Enjoy then, maybe I will too at some point if I find myself coming back to it.

  • The GP seems to love PTD

    If you want to get into this with me, I will do so, although maybe it's better to do it in the DMs or with the person involved. I always over explain because I want to be clear, so bear with me.


    I don't know why you seem offended about what I said, which I think was a fact too.

    Saying it was a gift that not all armys liked is different from saying that it was army's birthday and the whole song having a message of hope/healing thing followed by passive aggressively thanking people for messing up army day with something (paragraphs?), surely that is obvious.

    That is on them, they could have just enjoyed the positive reactions and content from BTS on army day instead of blaming a soured mood on other individual fans who had an opposite reaction, in your words, they could introspect on that.

    Look at it the other way around, if you hate something and other people loving it a lot spoils the day, that's odd.

    The release date being on army day shouldn't affect how much anyone likes the song or how much they write about it, so why mention it in that context, or at all? It's not as though that would or should automatically make anyone subdue negative feelings towards the song. Does that make sense?



    The last bit about the gift on it's own was completely fine tbh. If that's the problem that you had then okay, that bit didn't warrant a call out. It's a song for fans, okay.

    The other parts of the post though? "GP showed more love than people who should have given it more love?" It's a sentiment I've seen before, that more army should have accepted/supported the song without complaints, specifically because of those aforementioned aspects such as the date of release and the happy message.

    And the BTS being the exception thing is also a concept I have thoughts about but that's a separate conversation.


    Their comments were already a response in themselves to the initial reactions to the song elsewhere in the forum or online generally, correct? I just wrote a response to that response.

    Ideally we would just accept that there are mixed reviews of the song here in the first instance and then just move on from it and not mention them again or make confrontational threads/comments.

    Enjoy the song.


    Edit: Bolded main points

  • The GP seems to love PTD

    Quote from paradis

    Let people say what they want to amd what they feel. If you get guilt tripped that is on you. No one is stopping you from writing your essays or disliking the song or not supporting it. Go ahead and do that.

    It was an attempt to do that but I stand by my opinions. Well then in the same way, if they or anyone else feels silenced or disappointed by me saying how I feel then that's not on me. No one is stopping them from liking it and supporting it themselves.

    They said what they didn't like and so did I, which includes things like mentioning army day and gifts, who should have been supporting over the gp and "essays" on forums on bts vs others on a thread about the GP really vibing with PtD. That's it.

  • armchairs, like myself, gather 'round

    I kept seeing comments and threads about writing essays. It makes perfect sense for fans to be detailed in their thoughts about songs and the career of an artist they anticipate and support. The same people who express their disappointment/frustration in them are also people who praise them in detail when they are satisfied, both are valid when written in the right way.

    Phrases such as "I don't like it" and "It's not for me", a single sentence statement, these should not be the only ways to express a negative opinion of a bts song or any song on the forum, I would hope people agree with that. Further analysis or opinions are fine and normal and shouldn't be discouraged.

    The people who say things like they think BTS should disband over this, they're just too invested and should not be dignified with a response. If your problem is really with armys and not with BTS, then be honest, and don't take it out on BTS (I've seen this happen with other groups and it's just sad).


    How many people wrote these essays?

    I know I did one but I was not hateful.


    I saw so many criticisms/bashes said about MITM/Itzy this year on forums and sites (a teddy rip off, bad rapping, juvneile lyrics, noisy/trash, weak chorus, they've declined musically, some jyp producer bashing) but nothing escalated between those who liked it and those who didn't. Wish this happened with BTS (lack of escalation) but it never does.

    It is at the extremes every time, which is poetic in a way X/


  • armchairs, like myself, gather 'round

    This makes it sound like they're a different breed of person who just exclusively listens to kpop and nothing else. Kpop fans are no different from any other fans. It's not a trait, it's just an interest.

    It's also doesn't mean you necessarily have a "worse" or less developed taste than others, I mean, who actually exclusively listens to idol music all their life?

    Korean idol pop, one part of one small country's music scene?

    They will like metal, rock, folk, western pop, hip hop, other non idol korean acts, other foreign language music etc. alongside kpop. This goes for armys, moas, blinks, every fandom.

    Kpop is niche but it's still pop. It's not like it's experimental jazz fusion, it's understandable why people are drawn to it.

    I would actually say kpop fans are pretty open. There are people out there who are pretty snobby or don't have an interest in music and actually do only listen to one genre.


    Almost universally bashing ballads and OSTs? Most are uninterested, some like them, very few actually bash them and that's nearly always because they're blocking their favs. We also can't conflate what music is "actually" popular there (or anywhere) as being the best of the best and what people "should" like. Even critics don't always have a consensus on artists' quality and I think that especially applies to kpop.

  • The GP seems to love PTD

    Good that people enjoy it and makes them feel happy, that's what it was for!


  • #freeBTSfromAKPessaywriters (free AKORNS involved)

    I don't see why people can't give longer feedback/analysis.

    This is a forum.

    Forums have fans.

    Fans ultimately have expectations and a level of trust in their artist, that's the reason why they are fans, that is the reason why they anticipate content from their favs and feel excitement even just hearing an announcement from them.

    Sometimes they feel disappointed and they want to explain why, and sometimes they're extremely satisfied and they'll rave about it. It goes both ways.

    Don't read if you don't like it. It should only be an issue if the person is using bad language and making it personal, or making false/slanderous statements, in which case just correct them and move on.


    edit: This is a really bad excuse to start shitting on other artists. It doesn't make things better for BTS or Army one bit. In fact it probably makes things worse.

  • I am bored, give me songs to rate

    Quote from chounim

    wait i haven't finished the song yet but what the fuck!


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    Quote from chounim

    Queeeenie my rating is 5/10

    the best thing about the song is the vocals (obviously)

    i like it better than SJ's version (which is a remake btw) even though SJ's version had cleaner arrangements imo, but i never really liked Someday as a song that much even when SJ released it.

    I never knew Suju covered it!

    RM recommended the song on the melon station thing BTS' are doing


    5 though ;( that's okay

    I liked the vocals best also

    Those runs gave me life especially the ones after the 3 min mark

  • I am bored, give me songs to rate

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  • Why a lot of kpop fans don't have any problem with groups releasing japanese singles or albums targeting the japanese market...

    Quote from AyanEva

    I figure, as long as it's BTS' choice and not something they thought they had to do or were forced to do, then it's alright by me. Every indication is that they decided to give it a go just to do something different. As artists, they should have the freedom to do that. There's BE and the rest of the discography that's still in Korean. A few experiments won't hurt anything and they shouldn't be limited in that way. Just my two cents. I do understand your points though.

    Yes, I totally agree that they should do whatever feels right for them. It's their life and their career.

    These conversations surround every successful artist in the world and BTS happens to be one of them.

    I think we all need to just be more realistic about who our favs are and not what their potential is and who we want them to be.


    My view is that it's okay for people to deduce that someone was motivated by success over authenticity when they make a certain artistic choice?

    I've learned that even though some are overly obnoxious about this whole 'sell out' concept, they're entitled to their opinions/standards, and more importantly, their approval shouldn't be necessary for those who that kind of music does resonate with. It's two ways of looking at the same situation.

    The problem in kpop is that fans are competitive so there will always be those who come across jealous and salty :eyes:


  • Official Digital Thread

    Quote from thirstaer

    july 9 is important to bts and army. so yeah. bts specifically chose july 9 and goal is NOT charting and kr promotion unlike some acts.:danceb:

    I don't know who you are shading but US armys and BTS do have a goal to chart (at no.1)

    Unless you are talking about korean charting in which case there is no goal

    It is a good way to bring attention to the fandom anniversary day, I had forgotten about it before this year

    I think the charts ultimately show what is being consumed the most within the population, rather than what is simply being listened to by the most people.

    Every time a fan downloads sets of the songs and doesn't plan to listen to each one, buys physical formats (casettes/vinyls/CDs) without using them to play the song and streams with headphones connected but not in their ears the entire time, they are consuming without listening. Energy and money is expended in each of these scenarios and that is what counts. If the charts want to reflect actual "popularity", if that is possible, the industry would have to change.

    I agree that "organic" in the real sense of the word doesn't exist. It can't in a hyper capitalistic system.