Posts by Cold_Wave

One more good year for aespa I think they can get above mamamoo level at least

going to tell my kids this was xg

Quote from Yama-Chan

I hope so.

Mamamoo's most recent group comeback was a bigger domestic hit than Twice's though so

But we're not ready for that conversation

i love a good mid-off

Sum of melon unique listeners

Ive: 53,348,184

Illit: 59,373,140

MMA goes by objective data more compared to the other music award shows. No robbery here.

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The caveat here is that MHJ, NJ's parents, the fans and NJ made comments

We cannot let the plot be lost in the refuse of all this mudslinging, because it's important to remember that MHJ and the parents did everything internally and HYBE was the one to not only make this dispute public but also clearly pull the lever on a bunch of defamatory, abusive content, most of which was sourced from Korean's equivalent to 4chan. Hell, the ILLIT twitter account got caught following a well-known NJ anti account.

The following an anti incident was greatly exaggerated. They followed someone who is an illit fan who made a few shady tweets about nj/mhj. It wasn't a well known account, they only had 300 followers and they never really got many replies on their posts. Many people checked out the account before they went private including me. You really had to scroll a while to see any of the shady posts so it's very possible whoever followed them didn't even see that. Even then the shady weren't any worse than typical stan twitter stuff. You occasionally drag/shade IVE, you could be labelled an IVE anti with the same logic. Almost everyone on twitter is running a "hate account" if a few shady posts is all it takes.

They also followed someone who stans newjeans along with illit. why does that mean nothing but following an "anti" mean they hate nj?

why did i watch half of this i don't even korean

they've never had a thai person before so it would be racist if she wasn't there

i guess we have to stan mook now

Quote from David33

Do the math:

BP: 36 shows 351K people.

2NE1 without a US tour: 20 shows 168K people. Now, let's give them a US and European tour. 36*8K=290K people on paper! So, tell me, how BP is bigger than 2NE1? Not to mention, if you look at the attendance for their concert in the US and in Europe, it's not something you should be bragging about. Most of the attendance were around 10K except in Asia.😅

This is just sad. You're comparing 2ne1's biggest tour with 2 year old BP's tour and then you add hypothetical numbers to 2ne1s tour and they still lose.

Quote from David33

Hon, you missed the point, AGAIN, and it's boring now.

How many times do I have to tell you all that you only compare the numbers, BUT you're missing the KEY DETAILS on how BP achieved those numbers. They had 36 shows for their concert, 2NE1 only had 20, BP had 66 shows for their latest shows. If they do more shows, of course they will have better numbers.

I will say this one last time: BP only has 2 record left. Born Pink album sales, and their latest concert. That's all. Everything else is broken by other groups. That's why they can't be the biggest. They were, like in 2-3 years ago, but not now.

its not just number of shows. bp were popular enough to play at many big venues. 2ne1 could only do arenas with like 8k attendance, i don't think they did a stadium ever. if 2ne1 had 66 shows they would only reach about a quarter of born pink's total attendance. 66 x 8k = 528k

turns out it was a lie though

christmas concept

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2NE1 wouldn't have a comeback if CL and the others don't force it. They wanted to do this for a long time, but the name rights are still owned by YG. The bottom-line is, Yang has to pay for 3 or even more different World Tours, while he could do just one with BP, but no, he's doing multiple, and that's a LOT of money. So, it means BP alone is not enough to generate enough income anymore.

i don't get your logic. if they can get 2ne1 to tour as well its just a bit of extra revenue. why wouldnt they do it? theyre trying to make as much as they possibly can. the cost of the tours don't matter as long as they don't completely flop.

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Actually, that just shows Yang can't run his own company and don't care about the artists who built it for him! And he's failing hard, because even your gals can't save his ass. That's why all of his groups will have a comeback next year and a World Tour. If Blackpink is the biggest, why YG need 2NE1 to come back? 😂

I would bet 1M that this is gonna be BP's last comeback, and it's gonna be a Single or an EP with 3 songs at best! He has his new BP with better talents already, and your girlies already moved on anyway.

Everyone knows he's treating his artists like shit, even BLINKS knows it. Also, do some research about why 2NE1 had to disband!

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Hows the "new bp" doing? last i checked theyre not even charting...

they got 2ne1 back because they can squeeze a little bit of extra money from the hype of their comeback so why not. doesn't necessarily mean that they need them. but also yg can't make as much money from bp as they used to. they don't get anything from their solo work and they did manage to renew their group contract but the revenue split is probably much more favourable for bp now compared to before.

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Sure, yet, YGE never sold anything while BB and 2NE1 were active, until BP debuted. They had to sell their golf course in 2018 or 2019, because their 1st US tour flopped as hell, and now 60% of Studioplex. This speaks volumes, my friend.

yg willingly disbanding 2ne1 while pleading for bp members to stay in yg and offering them $40M contracts speaks volumes. yg reaching their peak market value with bp while BB and 2ne1 were no longer active artists speaks volumes.

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And like I said, if YGE was that profitable thanks to BP's concert, why did they sell Studio Plex? Your math is not mathing.

because studio plex was flop maybe? this is just what companies do regardless of how successful they are, if a side project is not getting decent results they let it go. no reason to let it continue draining time and resources. doesn't reveal the overall position of the company.

to be fair international charts and numbers do really have the potential to be significantly more meaningful than korean charts. lisa never charted super well in korea and yet she was getting contract offers of $40M+ from big labels including yg. still getting huge endorsement deals after all these years. anyone with mostly only SK fame doing well like that? mamamoo were doing well on korean charts and look at them now, their careers all hit a dead end. if korean charts were as valuable why were they forced to join no-name labels that even google hasnt heard of?

would i celebrate and make a thread if lisa topped SK charts? sure, why not... but still, int charts > sk charts.

melon has the top 100 chart and hot 100 chart. top 100 is the main melon chart. power only topped the hot 100 chart. rose never left #1 on the main chart

it has illit vibes