Posts by Cold_Wave
-
-
-
I'm baaaaaaack
I weigh the Korean markets more because they're more important than the others, especially for girl groups.
On my scale, the only market I'll weigh more than domestic markets, within a specific range of success, is the U.S. and Japan, the two largest music markets in the entire world.
Not to denigrate other demographics or countries, but I don't care if your song hit #1 in France if it completely flopped in Korea. Nobody cares.
We all remember the songs that dominated the Korean charts (just look at the votes as proof), but nobody can tell me the songs that dominated in Shanghai without looking it up.
There isn't a fandom more obsessed with dismissing the relevance of domestic charts dominance than Blinks.
I acknowledge HYLT has impressive YT numbers and global streaming numbers.
It also performed EXPONENTIALLY worse than Hype Boy in Korea, and that's not hyperbole. HYLT didn't outperform even Nonstop or Dolphin back in 2020, and on a list of the most streamed girl group songs in MelOn history, it didn't even make the top 20.
For me to overlook that and just handwave it away, it would need to KILL in either the U.S. or Japan, and it didn't in either.
So I personally will never pick that song as song of the decade.
for me "biggest song" is just the song that had the most amount of listeners or most amount of listens. a stream is a stream regardless of where it comes from. if the question was which song was the most commercially successful thats when i would bother to analyse the value of the markets that the song was popular in.
but even with your definition of "biggest" im not sure i agree with the method you use. you like the term "bad faith argument", i think thats what youre using here. you focus on comparing popularity in the top markets. but you exclude china which is a top 5 music market because it doesnt fit your narrative. you bring up cupid doing better in the US even though you are trying to argue for hype boy (relevance?). you strawman by saying blinks think hylt is bigger because it did better in france. its not because of france alone, theres roughly 200 countries and hylt did better in almost all of them. individually a lot of them are maybe not a big deal but the combined total of all of them is significant. some of the markets your excluding arent even small. i would say SEA is a big market for kpop despite not technically being a big music market itself. bp generated more revenue in the SEA portion of their born pink tour compared to other groups entire tours. bp made $82M there. thats more than twice made in their ready to be tour in japan. bp is able to do stadiums in a lot of the regions you consider irrelevant so its not just "100k extra streams" like you say.
-
-
a question from the 2018 vault
-
Hype Boy is approaching 700 million streams on Spotify and it's not even 3 yet.
As mentioned, it took HYLT 4 years to hit 1 billion.
I'm not afraid to talk about the international charts, but you all seem absolutely TERRIFIED of talking about how HYLT did in Korea.
I've made it so simple
How can HYLT be the choice when it wasn't the top song in the states nor even CLOSE to being the top song in Korea? It's looking up at another song, several actually, in both markets.
Couldn't be my choice ever.
hype boy is at 630M streams. it needs 370M to reach a billion. its getting 340k streams a day currently. that means it will take just under 3 years from now to reach a billion and thats if streams don't drop. its already 2 and a half years old so in total it would take around 6 years for that song to reach a billion. its not that good
-
-
-
theres 3 in katesye
-
External Content x.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.
-
suga crashed recently. literally
-
-
-
-
-
It just got a 90 day extension
-
They will just also use youtube shorts and Instagram. But Im pretty sure tiktok will not get banned. I bet 10 akorns on it
-
-
I think a group has to be popular to produce an it girl. Look at what happened with Sullyoon. Lost all her hype because no one talks about her group.
Idk if babymonster can become relevant in Korea. They need better songs.
-
They haven't even been around for a decade yet.
They have if you count like a korean