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The shameless hybe stans in this thread trying to criticize this issue while completely ignoring TWSxBB when even the video is way too similar to call it just an inspiration
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The thread title question was: who was more popular at their peak, not during their whole career.
It all depends on what you consider the main metric for popularity.
There's charting, there's Gallup, there's number and quality of CF's, etc.
If you see Gallup as the best measure for popularity in SK, then SNSD are the clear winner, with higher popularity scores and ranking.
If you see k-chart digitals as the best measure for popularity in SK, then Big Bang are the clear winner, with better digitals.
I see Gallup as the best measure for SK popularity, so that's why SNSD. But if you don't believe in Gallup and/or want to use digitals as main measure for SK popularity, then BB is the better one.
I use everything tbh, and BB peak wasn't just in their early years, 2015 was also their peak that's why I keep inserting it. In late 2010~ they were touring for millions of fans and with great digitals and presence in kpop so it's also their peak.
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What I meant was that SNSD' peak of popularity, where they topped their popularity in SK, was higher and longer than BigBang's in SK, using Gallup as main criterium for popularity.
To elaborate: in the years 2009, 2010 and 2011 (3 years straight), SNSD were the #1 most popular artists in SK with popularity scores of 29.8, 31.5 and 26.1%.
The only year that BigBang topped the Gallup rank as #1 most popular artists was in 2015 with a popularity score of 15.5%, only 1 year.
And you'll ignore BB and SNSD digital performance through all these years just to rely on Gallup? BB having +60k concert in Seoul? BB longevity peak were higher bc they topped the charts from 2008~2022 in the years they released. That's longevity.
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I'm in shock with how some sones are really trying to paint SNSD as the biggest group in Korea ever since the other thread like... Calm down, they were amazing, but BB longevity is something that can't be compared when every BB era was hit after hit in SK and Asia... 2015 alone proved how they are the top 2nd gen group and 2022 was a joke to others when they had the most successful bg song of that year without promoting.
Anyways...
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This is kind of an interesting comparison, both were the iconic top groups, each with their own legendary achievements
As for popularity, it all depends on what you define as 'popularity', and then you have the separation between popularity in SK, and internationally.
Both groups have their own core strengths where they excelled in. But SNSD seems to have the edge: SNSD were both more popular in South Korea with a higher, longer popularity peak. And SNSD were more popular cq had stronger global recognition internationally.
... would have been even more interesting if EXO were included in this comparison with SNSD and Big Bang, rankings in some metrics would have shaken up including EXO too. Maybe for a future thread, YamaChwan
Where SNSD had more longevity than BB in SK? This is not true and you can clearly see their releases from 2015~2022 to know which group were far ahead of the other. That's longevity.
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I'll say BB. They had way too many hits every year and successful tours.
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I just think of an unassailable truth and I post it before I lose the thought thread.
I took a break from thread making, but all the current ones were boring so here we are.
BB made YGE a big3, nobody denies it, but BP surpassed them internationally ever since debut making the gap bigger every new era so YGE kept being a big3 in 3rd gen thanks to BP and they got known way more thanks to BP.
The comparation also doesn't even make sense bc the first top group of a company will always be the one who put the company on map. in BB case it was in Asia, but in BP case they made it known ww in a large case.
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Oh BB, you'll always be famous
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This thread turned into something so cringe in the end BTS are the biggest Asia artists ever and doing things that even west artists couldn't and BP are the biggest gg in the world and this is already a huge achievement.
And BP were never an extra thanks to BTS, they headlining Coachella, the UK festival and having such a huge tour is bc they have their own impact.
In the end the girls are all happy doing their things and antis will keep trying to dismiss their achievements bc that's what they do when they live through their faves's success.
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I didn't like this cb, but regardless I think they actually came back pretty quickly. I still think we were in the Super Lady/Fate era. Sometimes it's better to take a longer hiatus and give time for fans and casual to move on.
Overall they are doing more than great and I insist in saying they are one of the few 4th groups that are consistently on top with great numbers. They were never strong on Spotify, but this also never stopped them for getting hits, sales and touring.
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Of course it had to be that lowest IQ fandom
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Quotes from the person they worshipThis isn't the mega thread, rest.
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Oh, you're so funny.
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And that's your opinion