I'm not all that familiar with Hybe or its inner workings, but I would not be surprised if they saw this guy who's made a name for himself (both good & bad) in the American music industry and basically given him the keys to the car. I think people forget these Korean labels are still small-time compared to some of the people Scooter's been working with & made more successful, and that is going to carry weight in any decision-making process.
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For starters, how about being able to reach the notes in the songs they're performing live? Not sounding flat or sharp for the highest or lowest notes? And if we go with how professionals evaluate singing ability, how about projecting sound from the vocal chords instead of sounding too throaty or breathy? Ability to perform vibratos? Agility? Not straining but being resonant when belting?
Whether someone has a voice you like or don't like has no relevance to these singing abilities.
Anyways,
Taeyeon >= Wendy (both among the best female vocalists in K-pop)
Seohyun, Tiffany > Joy
Some of the performances I've based my comparisons on:
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But otherwise like I predicted you chose Red Velvet which is absolutely not an "average" group in terms of vocal ability (arguably they're the second strongest in 3rd gen), so already your claim that SNSD are below average falls flat.
I disagree completely with your assessment, but I don't foresee anything productive coming from trying to go into depth on these basic greater than/less than comparisons. RV are simply the better singers in my mind. SNSD can sing their songs live because one person has all the remotely difficult parts. The rest is fairly standard fare requiring mediocre vocals at best.
Man imgine trying to call SNSD shit singers when they've had over a decade to show how good they are as a group and individuals, including the non vocalists who are at least confident and capable enough to sing live without issue. I've seen flat earthers make more sense.
I woke the SNSD fanboy up from his slumber. I'm making waves now.
The lack of self awareness it takes to flat out disrespect SNSD's vocals like this, while being hyper defensive over any remotely critical comment towards Twice's talents, is mind boggling
Who is "hyper defensive over any remotely critical comment towards Twice's talents?" I have no idea who you're talking about, because I don't fit that description at all. I've not even mentioned them here. So you can either explain yourself or just go back to being hyper defensive over literally everything NewJeans & Mamamoo. Makes no difference to me.
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EXACTLY. They created a group, for a market, that exist, but its already filled with kpop groups, so why not just make a kpop group? Or even go the XG route and be a kpop group, but release only english music?
The western members is only a good idea if they plan to strictly stay in the western eco system and promote like a tradtional GG, which hasn't been the case. Its crazy how people get paid to make these decision, but still don't understand kpop at all.The people making these decisions understand Kpop. That's why this is all so baffling. But this is clearly the result of being bored with Kpop success and wanting global success, they're just going about it the wrong way now and trying to take illogical shortcuts.
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Could have not commented too
I could say the same about you. So where does that leave us?
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I'm not voting in order to protest your most desperate cry for attention yet.
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Why does this thread periodically get necroed by new accounts?
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They count the tickets sold, it could be someone bought several tickets in which btw common in concerts.. It would totally still count as sold out. For twice, it's a double whammy. Not jam packed and not sold out
Several thousand tickets you mean? Who is buying all those tickets that are very obviously going unused? Lisa's boyfriend?
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I was referring to Red Velvet. They even released a full album and still got only one single out of it.
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That's after encore, people could've left already by that time. They still have 100% tickets sold on every concert they had with born pink tour.
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I don't see the point in harping on this "the train is gone" mentality. What are they supposed to do, get in a time machine and start doing pre-releases or promoting B-sides earlier? They're doing that now, which is more than we can say for certain groups that NEVER get pre-releases (I'm looking at you, SM.)
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Her instagram followers are still exploding. Did she lose followers? No.
She has 13.1 million followers now. It was ~12.2 million "pre-scandal".
Added. I also checked. In the same timeframe WY followers have gone up by ~0.3 million.
Like I posted, Dives just don't get it. Its not 2004. Bullying, drugs, getting involved in burning sun activities can end your career. Other "scandals" put you in the news and make people talk about you.
I'm not even a "dive," so I'm not sure what sort of agenda you have against them, but I don't fit into it.
Karina's Instagram followers are just a number. We don't know how many of them are people with only a casual interest, or how many are even bots. What we do know is that entire fanclubs were saying they'd no longer buy Aespa's albums. I suspect that's going to have a larger effect than her social media presence.
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All these groups and they couldn't keep Gfriend together.
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I think he is a fan.
Any publicity that is free is good publicity. Dives are stuck in the dark ages and don't understand this.
For example is Karina even more fans now, because most people don't care that she has a boyfriend. It is the same with procedures that everyone has. Western stars including Kanye and Taylor Swift deliberately create scandals all the time to stay in the news, and there are very few scandals that could bring down an idol now.
This saying has never been true. It was originally said by a carny who made a living off of lying to people. He didn't have a fragile reputation to uphold like these other celebrities. It's especially false for Korean celebrities, who live under higher scrutiny than basically any western celebrity. There are LOADS of things that could end their careers at any minute. Having this creep following you around and joking about your plastic surgery won't end your career, but it certainly ain't helping in any way.
I also seriously doubt Karina has more fans now than before her dating reveal. How did you even come to that conclusion?
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Time to fess up, which blink does this alt account belong to?
They gonna get drag in twt for sure
Why? So everyone can drag the draggers for the numerous concerts their favs have failed to sell out?
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So if she's mother, what does that make Nayeon?