Posts by Woo-Yo

Massy streaming and bulk buying has limited the credibility.

Or just maybe. People can stop wasting their money on attending their concerts if they don’t like the performance. No one is forcing fans who don’t like BP consistency in terms of performing to still support them. People will 100% understand why you decided to stop.

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In 7 years time all of NJs will be over 18.

But its because the group is targeting all the female tweens and teens, thats why is they are so young, and they are so successful. That's why BM is so young too.

Target female teens yet most of their audience is men above 20 and a substantial amount in their 40. 😂

The only people claiming NJ is original is SOME of their fans. K-pop is still pretty much a niche and I wouldn't be surprised if these fans don't look at other content outside that same niche. Keep in mind these are probably the same fans claiming the GG FLO is copying NJ. Like they live in a bubble.

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Apologies don't work on people like that.

Sometimes i wonder if people should apologize at all. At least when you don't apologize you know why are you getting dragged, but even when you apologize you're still going to get dragged. Admiting that you made a mistake and apologize for it, and completely ignoring the issue, the result is the same.

Koreans don't even know about nazis, let alone about local terrorist organization.

I had no idea who jim jones was, not my history. Yes, we have different histories, cultures and language, shocker

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KOREANS DON’T KNOW ABOUT NAZI???? Are you being serious right now? IVE HAD ENOUGH ALLKPOP BYE.

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Yeah it's definitely not a reference to them possibly traveling to Spain. Their album tracklist isn't at all related to traveling and time.

It's terrorism.

Obviously terrorism

At the 3 minute mark they're gonna start throwing Molotov cocktails in town square for shits and giggles

Because there's no other explanation

Their track-list is about traveling and time? Where does it say that at.

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Those cases are so different from this

You are comparing grown adults established in their career doing sth directly to teenagers who have a weird ass boss and under her influence and decision making.

I’m accusing MHJ what are you talking about. She’s an established adult with a known career for being a weirdo.

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Do you not see the difference between BTS/Twice doing things specifically related to awful people and you guys taking common names and associating it with awful people?

Nope I don’t since them having ETA. Only further the association to the names I listed. Well wait til the MV drops and see how these three names connect to newjeans since they are starring with them. I’ll wait to hear it’s a producer because that is the only way this makes sense. Actors make zero sense because they never get mentioned unless they are famous .

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Suga and Chaeyoung cases are different IMO. None have a history of making questionable things in the past, and also both apologize for this cases. MHJ had a history and we all know how she deal with her scandals.

It does not matter. OP was trying to make it seem big groups DONT DO controversial things because they have a lot to loose. And I was debunking that notion by using one of the two biggest groups.

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1. A victim's name out of a thousand means nothing. There could be a thousand different names among them. Do all of them point towards terrorism?

2. Where's Maria?

3. Well Captain Obvious, of course if I type the actual first and last names of people from the ETA, I'll find info about the ETA. Now what about looking for the names as they appear in NewJeans' teaser? No last names. Then you'll find nothing about ETA. Because these first names are mundane and don't point towards anything.

LOL OH RIGHT. They have to spell out each ENTIRE NAMES from first to last for you to take is serious. Jesus Christ.

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I can't speak for SUGA but JYPE and Chaeyoung apologized immediately for the shirt incident.

Does not matter and OF COURSE they will issue an apology. They have to save face and their public image. The point was that you’re trying to make it seem big names won’t do shit like this because they have a lot to lose. But lord and behold!!! Two bigger groups did already.

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I know right? I despise that woman as much as the next person but come on yall... think for a second. The foundation yall are basing this on is weak and already crumbling since it's just speculation. And besides, NewJeans are ambassadors for global brands likeDior, YSL Beauty, Burberry, Chanel, Gucci, Armani Beauty, Louis Vuitton, McDonald, and Coca-Cola. And this album is basically being sponsored by the Powerpuff Girls, and by extension Warner, with the collab. Do you really think MHJ would risk throwing that all away by referencing a terrorist group in her girl group's teaser for shits and giggles? Do you think HYBE would let her potentially sabotage their newest moneymaker?

Twice is one of the biggest girl groups. And last time I checked one member rocked the infamous Nazi symbol of a group that committed genocide.

BTS of suga referenced Jim Jones????

Both of these groups are bigger than NJ yet referenced two controversial figures. You’re underestimating how much they don’t care and think they can get away with it. Which they will seeing you still support NJ despite all the shit that came out.

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Have you even read my comment? There is no perfect match. Those three names are so mundane they can't refer to anyone. There is no infamous Mikel/Maria/Eva trio in ETA's history to make your point valid. Google those names together, all you'll find is talks about NewJeans' teaser. Look for a Maria or an Eva on ETA's wikipedia page, you'll find none. You guys are just shoehorning your whimsical narrative so you have something to rant about and be outraged over. Which is all the more ridiculous as you didn't even know about the basque ETA a few hours ago.

Mikel Irastorza, Eva Larrañaga and Mikel Antza. A victim, one of the leader and a dirigents?? Yeah okay.

Type in their names and YOU WILL see them show up for ETA. Maybe don’t use Wikipedia first to research your information.

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The names are not right. Even though something may be said about Mikel, on the other hand Eva and Maria refer to no one relevant. Most of all, these three names are terribly mundane in Spain.

It really wouldn’t matter. The fact they manage to pick ETA as a name is one thing. But to perfectly match three names alongside it is going to lead to controversy. It’s weird you pick ETA and choose three names that so happen to connect to ETA. And not estimated time of arrival.

And let me find someone with a Twice chaeyoung PFP trying to invalidate this. YOUR OPINION IS IRRELEVANT.

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isn't the most plausible explanation, which was already mentioned in this thread mind you, that they are the names of people acting in the mv? this is where the jumping to conclusions comes in bc who said those are random names and not the names of actual people in the mv? especially if its a story mv? the mv was allegedly filmed in portugal. people being named maria, mikel, and eva in portugal is not "weird".

Of course the person with the Suga PFP will be invalidating this when he sampled Jim Jones. Your opinion is irrelevant.

And to add. The average non-european or who person who hasn't studied terrorism or spanish history would not know offhand who ETA were, shoot they probably wouldn't even know what the basque region and basque separatism was. It is all too contextually specific to just be a coincidence. How you manage to get the names + the name of the terrorist organization at the same time right? Out of ALL names you could use it’s those three?

Some of you guys needs to understand that theorizing is a big part in Kpop. Kpop lore and more is rampant in the kpop community from the lore companies put out and NewJeans is one group who does that. So, no duh? The first thing people do is a basic research of ETA and the names mentioned on the cover. People are going to be freaked out.

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She is not pedo, all the evidence was debunked. Also, she has shown she takes better care of the members than all the other CEOs. Cooking for them, making sure they are not stressed, talking with their parents,… if you have problem with Min Heejin then have problem with all the male CEOs too.

Deflection and excusing accusation don't mean anything.

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At S.M., Min led experimental concepts for some of the most popular K-pop groups, including SNSD, SHINee, f(x), EXO and Red Velvet. Min not only directed the designs, but decided on the overall concept for each album -- fashion choices, album covers, posters, symbols and everything else. She even took charge of the photo shoots herself. She later was given the title creative director, or visual director, and planned new albums and promotions for S.M.’s artists.

2. There is no denying the accusation brought up regarding the FACT she has pictures of kids half naked on her wall because it was posted on her instagram. It was on her instagram so what is being debunked. You're a pedo justifier. Stop replying to me.

Are NJ fans forgetting that MHJ is also a confirmed pedo or are we just going to ignore this. You guys can sit here and complain specifically about 40 year old men wanting to see literal kids or young women who just turned adult age. Yet, don't have an issue with an old women who has explicit evidence she is a pedo?? Something isn't adding up because you guys long ago showed you don't actually care to protect nj. Because if you did you would have this same energy towards her weirdo tendencies from having certain pictures on her wall, showcasing weird behavior towards other underage idols back when she worked at SM and her love for Brooke Shield who is known for being hyper sexualized at a young age.