actually Red Velvet discography is really overrated without SM backing them
they don't have a national hit
TWICE lock the asian region on their peak 2016-2018
BP have international or western recognition for girl crush
and Asia
especially after the end of TWICE prime
the 3rd Gen only have TWICE VS BP rivalry
and maybe against I.O.I for temporary 1 year
and 1 hit wonder Momoland
Red Velvet music discography is overrated
I think only SM stans and reveluvs like their song ?
this is not racism it about faithful to the original adaptation
because we( they) want an aesthetical pleasing disney princess
or at least closer to the original Ariel 90s Little Mermaid
and that good it flop all over asia
Hollywood push too much other agenda making a movie
they better make a new disney princess or make an exact copy of them if they like to remake
also look at the
sailor moon
rouroni kenshin
gintama
ranma
prison school
death note
Kakegurui
and other japanese live action
the fans worried about the likeness to the anime
but thankfully it close to the original adaptation
and some of them exceed the anime
like Kakeguri and 1st three movie of Death Note
then compared to the
cowboy bepop netflix
the dragon ball evolution
doa live action - from video game dead or alive
it flop because it not look alike ..
the west is not faithful to the original
that why they flop
not a Harry Potter fan
but if the casting have a
hispanic Harry -
as an asian male
as long as not a white harry or black harry
look good
is closer to asian male representative and the original Harry is also black hair boy
a black Ron = in the old movies typical black comedy sidekick
just like Rush Hour (Chris Tucker)
or Enter the Dragon (Jim Kelly Williams )
this is good
Asian Hermoine -
hopefully this actress comes from asian countries for full asian female representative
much better if this is a Korean or Japanese young actress
prefered it over asian actress grown up in the states or from hollywood
-listening to good music
-walking at the seaside
-playing basketball
-playing w pet
-mall shopping
i guess youre hiding something important
🤔?
uhh...
that tells only how weak you are
you let other dictate you?
especially here in social media/internet/forum
that the problem for current gen
they can easily manipulate...
and they want to cancel everything from the past
Display MoreI agree you can't teach attraction, but the thing is :
1. NJ don't look mature, they look underage. People are literally saying they do not look mature enough to model for big luxury brands and that they look like they're wearing their mother's clothes.
Don't tell me they look mature, have you seen their stage outfits for OMG ?
2. Even if you got attracted to them at the beginning, you will learn their age very soon. Don't tell me kpop fans do not know their idols age. So all of those 75% adult fans do know they are mostly minors and still choose to stan.
3. You said : "afterall the idol image they sell to us is a grown woman"
That's not necessary true (especially in NJ's case). If it was, kpop groups (including NJ) wouldn't have the school uniform concept, the cute/innocent concept.
1. they look legal already but not mature maybe that the correct wording?
and OMG and Ditto is the weakest song/MV for me not a fan too sleepest
2.but why as a fan we needed to unstan them after knowing their age ?
fans only playlisting their song, MV etc and hype them in comment section?
it almost the same as other type of entertainment
3. what will we do wait until they grow up ?
or how about their Y2K HYPEBOY concept their song is nostalgia also for 30s and up
that 2000s is to some is their HS/College era
or whatever classic nostalgia reminding your teenages life?
and can't ignore Cookie is a bop
and the double meaning can be ignore ..especially if you grow up in the previous decade that double meaning really common to a lot of western song
so many classics
but I give some ideas
Air Supply
Avril Lavigne early 2000s version
CHVRCHES
Depeche Mode
Debbie Gibson
Lighthouse Family
M2M
Meja
Michael Learns To Rock
Michelle Branch
Savage Garden
Stevie B
The Corrs
Within Temptation
Britney Spears early 2000s
Westlife
Backstreetboys
Boyzone
Tifanny
The Jets
this!
that is another example..
and
their is study or article of(google it if you like)
Girls physically mature faster than boys on a physical level as well due to the quicker process of puberty
I pick 4th Gen GG Big 5
IVE - my favorite , I like all members and main center is Wonyoung and Yujin
all 5 GG from 4th gen are considered a visual group
in terms of song discography
TWICE 2015-2018 will hard carry the 3rd gen to win this for me
or better replaced Mamamoo and G Friend with
I.O.I and Momoland
w Somi , Nancy and Yeonwoo
Idk, to say a kid is cute or adorable is one thing to but to say they're pretty has a different connotation. It's not like he was talking about a flower or a shade of blue, a description in which "pretty" could be understood as aesthetically pleasing.
Especially coming from someone who called Wonyoung "sexy" in a different thread... he meant what he said exactly as he said it.
But to be fair, I'll give him a chance to clarify. Michael-6 , what did you mean by "pretty": attraction or aesthetic?
Idk, to say a kid is cute or adorable is one thing to but to say they're pretty has a different connotation. It's not like he was talking about a flower or a shade of blue, a description in which "pretty" could be understood as aesthetically pleasing.
Especially coming from someone who called Wonyoung "sexy" in a different thread... he meant what he said exactly as he said it.
But to be fair, I'll give him a chance to clarify. Michael-6 , what did you mean by "pretty": attraction or aesthetic?
- can be attraction
- can be aesthetic
or both
defense on attraction
if no one mention their age or we not known their age
you can still attract ,
because they look like already a grown woman
some 14-17 is look like mature looking woman already an 18 up
afterall the idol image they sell to us is a grown woman
end of the day you can't teach attraction
base on that pics
Wonyoung w weight gain
became prettier and sexier
Are you a solo stan or worse an akgae ?
---one of the main requirement to stan a group is
needed to I like all members, it means no
Are you a company stan ? nope
Are you a shipper ? Do you believe that your ship is true ?
---not fan of ship especially within the group , ship is true especially when their is a rumor..
more likely I like it for trolling other fans 
Are you always fighting with others fandoms ? No
Are you a sucess stan ? No
Are you a visual stan ? yes definitely a Visual stan
Are you the type of Kpop fans who drop their faves for the new trendy group every month ?
No I don't drop them ,It just add to my collections being multi stan
Are you an insufferable talent stan? No
Are you the type of fans who only pay attention to the Big4 groups ? no
Are you the type of fans who drop a group when they become too successful? No
Are you an anti of any group or idol ? No , not waste my time to hate others
Are you a BG or GG stan who hate on the other gender groups and their fans ? I like both BG and GG
especially as a KPOP newbie back on 2nd gen their is more than 5-6 BG
that have at least 1 good song I like
Are you a fan who refuse to pay attention to others groups in particular the ones who compete with your faves ?
No, being multi stan I'm open minded for competition
at this rate only
LIVE ACTION Mulan and Alladin
is the only Disney Live action movie
became aesthetically pleasing and w good storyline also
thanks for EAST asian culture and selection of actors
Snow White , Cinderella and Little Mermaid
are my top 3 cartoon crush back on my youth
even Tinker Bell in cartoon is pretty
especially Peter Pan, Snow White and Cinderella have an anime version
what I hate about
all the current all live action
disney princess ,tinker bell in Peter Pan, the fairy god mother in Pinocchio
they make them not aesthetically pleasing 
and became victim of diversity propaganda?
In my opinion they deserve more hate. Fucking adults stanning minors?
Yeah, we all know what kind of males (the majority atleast) stan this groups with minors.
Fuck them.
I disagree here ..maybe off topic ?
but they not stanning them because of they are minors
they more likely stan them
for being pretty
male fans choose their bias for being pretty
more likely male fans (like me)
if will pick between
underage unpretty idol vs older visual idol
they pick the older visual idol
it just happen the prettiest or the pretty member is not yet 18
