Posts by Disevidence

Quote from DMV2DMZ

Who can write her own rhymes, sing, and has crown-quality-catalog songs that showcase both in an incredible way? CL covers all 3 criteria.

Potentials:

• Soyeon has the ability to write and form her own catchy hooks too. There is still room for development on her singer side. Her songs aren't 100% hitting yet, but she's getting so close. Tighter beats will make a difference.
• Moonbyul has demonstrated her ability to sing and write her own rhymes. I don't she has enough crown Rap solo songs yet.
• Last but not least, my favorite underdog with untapped potential, Minzy. Strong singer and capable rapper but she doesn't have any crown Rap solo songs yet. Still room for her to grow as a rapper when it comes to rap cadences.

I'd rate Soyeon's songwriting and more importantly, her lyrics/wordplay well above CL's abilities.

Fair enough about the singer stuff, plus its well understood her nasal tone turns off people.

Soyeon is legitimately a great singer as well as obviously being the top GG rapper.

Just FYI - that account is not in any way officially affiliated with Genius the website/company.

It's just a forum who spend some time translating or adding commentary on Genius for Korean Songs.

Quote from BEG4DAWIN

Has there been any talk of adding Spotify to the I chart in Korea, or are they still too small for it?

Too Small. It's market share is still about 1/2 of Bugs, which itself is on the verge of irrelevancy (being Korean owned's the only thing keeping it in the chart mix).

YT music is really the trend amongst the younger koreans, it's almost caught up to Melon from the latest figures.

I think Spotify will struggle to get market share enough to start being a chart that matters.

Quote from vivaliberta

The knetizens love them well

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wonyoung it girl and yujin tho ,the People should know yujin get more ad collab than wonyoung since she was cf model as kid before pd48(wonyoung was center izone but she is on her peak of popularity)both performers of the groups and money markers.

All the members get Solo schedules even rei is ambassador of skincare in korea

There re solo covers dance and vocal expect Wonyoung(this is rare and dangerous things)

There re rei liz leeseo and gaeul (they re stan attractors )and great performers(different talents)

Their Archivement is insane

They re fastest group with 1 millions sales (6 months)

They re only 4gen with stable charts in US billboard and japan with eleven & love dive tho others charts

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Just want to point out that profit distribution chart was incorrect at the time, and is also several years old. At least 2 of those companies have undergone internal restructures for their Kpop/music departments since that chart, as well as some being purchased by parent companies and unknown impacts to pay structures - eg SVT renewed, unclear what change that would have wrought.

Aren't you guys talking about 2 different things?

Killingtime appears to be talking about overall, whereas Sobee is focused on the monthly chart for that month releases?

Unless Killingtime thought Psy was a may release (he was April)

Also, people should never be shocked about BG's 1st week numbers on Gaon. Downloads help enormously.

The biggest and most national 4th Gen hit is Banana Allergy Monkey by 4th Gen supergroup Oh My Girl Banhana.

Discussion closed. Let's not ask the question again.

Quote from Bpsosoro

Ur underestimating, she can ge5 top 30 off of hype alone tbh

She's releasing in a crowded period, after BTS, where UL's are likely to be elevated.

Not saying she can't do top 30 but I expect it to be a highly competitive top 30 from this end of this week till the end of July. Even people like Nayeon may struggle for cut-through.

It'll be interesting to have a total UL comparison for the top 20/30 for this upcoming period, to say Feb this year and this time last year.

People also I feel sometimes vastly over-estimate what success is for soloists too.

I mean yeah Taeyeon gets up there, but many Kpop Soloists only get to 80ish peak and generally bubble in or around the 100 mark on Melon.

Some people are very quick to point out they are flops but most are selling 50k-100k and getting 50-80k uls on a consistent basis. Sure, they aren't mega hits or anything, but it's a respectable showing.

I expect Nayeon to do something similar, maybe peak at 100k uls and hit about 60 on melon then consolidate at about 40-60k uls for a month or two. If she has the right song and the right moment, yeah possibly more, but just want to point out I think measuring soloists vs their group success is not really a fair measure.

I mean there was a fair amount of mixed criticism for WSG Wannabe from Knetz, as well as (personally) the song's a bit meh, but I guess that's never stopped Jae-Suk before.

The MSG and offshots are still going strong, so maybe the lightning didn't strike this time. They've still done pretty well all things considered. There's still plenty of time for WSG to rise.

The next big Digital Monster is most likely BTS... there's a huge amount of comebacks happening over the next 2 months, but it's really BTS, then Aespa, and maybe Itzy if they pull themselves out of the decline that'll make any noise on the digital charts.

Why are people arguing about album sales in the digital thread? Album sales are like the opposite of Digital Charts.

Quote from chartslover

National hit with 380k uls... let me laugh real quick

I mean you would have to know it peaked at 551k and the daily was 528k right.

I don't support OP bragging about a sneak back in, but let's at least quote correct numbers.

A little bit naughtily due to the public holiday and depressed ULs, but Tomboy has taken back #1 on Melon

You compared Deepened to - Amber, DC and EG

There isn't a Yikes big enough in the universe

Deepened is a legit rap. The only 3 that I would venture are on the same level and all are by Idle - $$$, Lion, and Hann.

Good Post OP.

Quote from atropos

For #1 on YEC or overall? Because tomboy 11th week is at 320M while drunken confession was at 196M cmiiw.

Yeah but Drunken Confession is just ticking over 11-13m each week, it's barely moving.

Tomboy is hardly moving either (only dropped 7m from peak) but I feel the fear is Tomboy is more likely to slip long term, while drunken confession will just sit at 11-13m for the rest of the year.

Ctrl+F "Senior Singer". 0 Hits

Who are you and what have you done with Whyknock.

KD always has crazy Gaon Points. Downloads go BRRR

It's how he almost snatched that win off SVT the other day. The comments didn't understand but it's always been that way.

Quote from MassiveKpopFan

I'd say yes at this point. Still Life has mid longevity as expected of BB. Psy and IVE might be able to challenge, but Tomboy had an entire month on top and it's still stable.

IVE won't challenge it, unless it gets a wildly surprising re-surgence. It peaked less, and already has been overtaken by Tomboy.

That That also seems to be running out of steam (relatively) to Tomboy. Tomboy's been taking back #1 Genie and the UL gap is closing considerably on Melon.

The real problem is most likely Tomboy slips just before catching up to number 1 properly (drunken confession), and because that song is never budging from 12m a week, eventually falls back behind it. This is if we're talking purely overall points for the year, and not focusing on 2022 releases only.

Last I checked the difference was 13m a week, and the overall difference is what, 60k? So that's still a good solid 5-6 weeks where anything can slow down Tomboy.

Pretty much all the debut songs this year have ranged from mediocre to bad, but Nmixx is the worst of the lot.

Just want to point out something, regarding the ridiculous narrative forming that basically anything not top 5 isn't a "hit".

My Bag by Idle. It's charting about 20-30. Little better then a few previous TTs, not quite as good as other TT's. Basically a pre-tomboy TT result, charting wise.

They were performing to University Festival crowds- the entire crowd new and danced to My Bag. They knew the song. They knew the lyrics. They knew the dance.

That's basically the level of most previous tracks by Idle. To say they aren't hits (particularly Latata/Hann/Dumdi) is to just completely misread the situation.

DC's and IDLE's venues are similar capacity. Even TXT had smallish venues. It just appears most labels are being fairly risk averse with their post-covid tours.