Everybody else says otherwise both by critics, charts and other kpop group fans
Some of us have to maintain standards
Everybody else says otherwise both by critics, charts and other kpop group fans
Some of us have to maintain standards
You were doing okay, but aespa didn't have a legendary three-song run. Drama is a bop, but the song isn't that good; it relies heavily on the chorus. Whiplash is just not good in any way; it's a worse version of Le Sserafim's attempt. And you missed Apink's three-song run.
Solid picks otherwise though
If we're talking about balancing the scales, if the discrepancy in the domestic market is gigantic, then the performance in the international market needs to be overwhelming to make up the difference FOR ME.
I bring up Cupid and Super Shy, because those are songs that were so dominant in the West that I can confidently add those accomplishments to the scale and weigh them against their relative performance in Korea. I'll use Cupid as an example here.
It was a historically dominant song in the West, but it barely grazed the top 10 before eventually falling off the top 100. I compare that to Hype Boy, that spent a record 49 weeks in the top 10, is still in the top 100 and is already the second most streamed girl group song in the history of the platform. People keep downplaying this, when the scale and speed of this accomplishment is otherworldly.
Hype Boy actually literally has double the numbers of HYLT in Korea in half the time. To balance that, HYLT would have to be a hit at LEAST at Cupid level and preferably Dynamite level. It wasn't.
If I applied that logic, I would be picking Super Shy not Hype Boy, since Super Shy was much bigger in the West.
I understand your point of view, but I just disagree in this case.
Personally, they never really surpassed Star to a Young Culture and Stereotype. TEENFRESH, Metamorphic, and ...I aren't really touching the song in those releases.
But it could just be that the K-pop market is still oversaturated, coupled with the fact that it's more expensive today to make music. If a group like STAYC is in trouble, then what does that say about the health of the industry?
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I weigh the Korean markets more because they're more important than the others, especially for girl groups.
On my scale, the only market I'll weigh more than domestic markets, within a specific range of success, is the U.S. and Japan, the two largest music markets in the entire world.
Not to denigrate other demographics or countries, but I don't care if your song hit #1 in France if it completely flopped in Korea. Nobody cares.
We all remember the songs that dominated the Korean charts (just look at the votes as proof), but nobody can tell me the songs that dominated in Shanghai without looking it up.
There isn't a fandom more obsessed with dismissing the relevance of domestic charts dominance than Blinks.
I acknowledge HYLT has impressive YT numbers and global streaming numbers.
It also performed EXPONENTIALLY worse than Hype Boy in Korea, and that's not hyperbole. HYLT didn't outperform even Nonstop or Dolphin back in 2020, and on a list of the most streamed girl group songs in MelOn history, it didn't even make the top 20.
For me to overlook that and just handwave it away, it would need to KILL in either the U.S. or Japan, and it didn't in either.
So I personally will never pick that song as song of the decade.
I agree that Korea is still the most important market for K-pop artists since that's probably where they'll work once they move onto their individual work (and greater east and southeast Asia would be the next group of countries after that). And I would sill say it's the most important market for almost all K-pop groups just because it's still the domestic market unless you're really aiming at other countries.
But if we're talking biggest hits on an international scale, then I'm not sure I'd give Korea some extra weight for that for this particular discussion simply because our metrics are measuring among a worldwide audience. Yeah, if the song flopped in Korea and blew up in Norway I wouldn't take much stock in that, but that's because Korea is a much bigger market for K-pop than Norway, but if it popped off Europe, the Americas, and SEA while flopping in Korea, then I'm not really going to care too much about Korea's reception.
I had actually forgotten that "How You Like That" is a 2020 release. I don't see a reason to weigh the Korean more than other markets in a "biggest" discussion if you include foreign markets into arguments, so I would agree with others that say "How You Like That" is the biggest song, and "Cupid" is probably second.
Misread the title as "best" for a few minutes and started scrolling my playlist though.
I don't really know them as individuals, and I don't really think too highly of their group music.
SNSD.
But second gen is stacked. To this day, it's the most stacked generation for girlgroups in terms of quality music.
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Good taste. It is their best song.
So I've made it a mission to listen to every K-pop release in 2025. I have done this for other years, the latest being 2022. My mission is trying to find good K-pop again because 2024 kind of sucked a lot in terms of releases.
SCOTUS will look into British Law as the US Citizenship is modeled after it. US jurisdiction is the make or break on Born Citizenship. Below is UK Citizenship Jurisdiction. US 14th is the same jurisdiction.
Is a child born in the UK automatically a British Citizen?
This is the UK as of the 1980s. English common law, which is what textualist judges will actually look at, supports birthright citizenship, which is why the UK had to change it in the first place.
Birthright citizenship used to be the norm. It's not a coincidence that the new world is composed of countries that, almost all, accept birthright citizenship.
What is "open cut" when referring to trains?
Below ground level but not subterranean:
MTA B Train in Cortelyou Road, Brooklyn, NY, USA
As opposed to elevated, ground level, and subterranean trains.
Mess what up? The book? Nah. Not gonna happen. The book was written by Allan Lichtman, his wife, his literary agent, his long-time editor, staff at the book publisher's company, and his research assistants.
SCOTUS and the interpretation, I mean.
I'm from Florida, and I went to Manhattan, New York, but I haven't seen any trains.
Well, in NYC, the most common trains you'll encounter would be those making up the NYC subway, stemming from separate train companies in the 20th century such as the IND, IRT, and BMT. Connected to the subway (apart from the airtrains for the airports) are the Long Island Rail Road (LIRR), which connects NYC with the rest of Long Island (Brooklyn and Queens are already on Long Island, but this connects other counties such as Nassau), the Metro North (which connects NYC with northern regions of NY state but also connects with New Jersey), PATH (which connects New Jersey and New York), and Amtrak (the national rail service that also serves as an international service connecting us to Canada).
Manhattan trains are mostly subways in the sense that they're underground. You'd have to go on the 1 line to northern Manhattan to see an above ground train. If you go to the outer boroughs like Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, and Staten Island, they all have trains that run above ground. Staten Island actually only has trains that run above ground while every other borough, including Manhattan, has a mix of above ground, below ground, and open cut.
Look at what I've got:
I bet (and hope) the author will write another book like that after Trump leaves office in 2029. This time including the fix of a president trying to strip birthright citizenship.
I've never heard of this.
But I'm sure there will be. A more liberal SCOTUS is this one decides to mess this up.
Okay I added "Train" as an option, even though I meant for traveling to other US states/countries in the first place. I forgot to add that.
I'm from NYC, I have travelled to other states (New Jersey and Pennsylvania) by train. It's actually really common in the northeast corridor of the US to travel to others states, even for normal jobs, by train (travelling into New York from New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Massachusetts). I have also travelled to another country (Canada) by train, which is common from NYC, USA to Montreal. Canada.
Trains are very convenient in the northeast.