Posts by Varenka
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It depends on the metrics used to determine who the top 5 are.
Are they in the top five based on sales and charts and other ~metrics~ as of today? Probably not. I'd put them sixth. Off of the top of my head, I don't know any other 4th gen gg that matches them, so they're certainly in the second tier and may even be a gatekeeper to the top tier group in terms of active ggs overall. But maybe there are others that I'm just blanking on since I'm not refreshing chart and sales threads.
If you mean top five in terms of greatness, then I think it's too early to tell. I always think it's best to wait 15 to 20 years from an artist's active peak in order to reflect upon their greatness relative to their era. Provisionally, I don't think I'd put them there, but it's still too early to tell for me at least.
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Attrakt vs Fifty Fifty was taking too long to go to the courts
And i-fans vs SM seems to be sleeping too Glad to see this starting to re-heat to sate our drama watch. We'll see in 14 days how this goes
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I think this is maybe common in east Asian cultures? I often hear people complimenting foreheads in those households. My friend's mom was bragging about his forehead the last time I spoke to her.
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Bruno Mars will reportedly perform at the 2024 MAMA Awards.
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Bruno Mars paved the way.
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No, I need to farm impressions.
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So Taylor Swift only has american fans and no international fans? Or are international fans not worthy of being fans? Are they not going to concerts? Not buying music? I wonder how much popularity Taylor Swift would lose if we only count her american fans? She has a lot but she does not only have those? Do american artist not chart in other contries? Or we should not count that and not give prizes to them when they do chart for example in Korea? Because the number might be smaller than some domestic artists? If they chart under Blackpink or Aespa are they not famous anymore? Is that not mention worthy?
And from where are you pulling the numbers? Bts obviously chart enough to do stadium tours? And get love calls to talk shows? They have their music played on sport events? Jin was asked to bear the olimpic thorch? Were all the fans there korean? Or were they french? Were they bots? Oh, I know! Human-like robots!
And if it's so easy to chart anywhere then anyone could do it, no? All the Hybe payola groups? All SM groups? Any YG groups? Jyp? Everyone could do it anytime? No? But others have big buckets too?
This is a lot of cope. Your very first sentence suggests something that isn't even implied in what I said 🙂↔️
Fact of the matter is is that for an AMERICAN award show, they will primarily reward those that do very well in America, not in South Korea or Japan. And they may do some egagement bait to get some fans of outside groups to engage in their work from time to time. That's how it is. There are Grammy snubs that can do stadium tours in the US without issue, so BTS doing stadium tours doesn't mean anything for them.
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I'm confused because swifties have the same criticism. "Crazy obbsessive fandom" for example. Beyoncé got criticised for being a niche act too. Drake's name was trashed many times too. Rodrigo is the nth disney-famous star (of course not but according to media she got instantly famous because of that). Seems like it makes their fame more legit than fake. It's the tipical talk when there is a big fandom bothering people who don't like a certain act.
On another note, most fandoms have crazy and obsessive fans. It does not do a lot for the idol/artist without the number of fans being big.
Those crazy obsessive fans are primarily Americans, and they outnumber BTS's American crazy obsessive fans, which ia what makes the difference
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You know that "Kpop categories" that the Kpop industry look forward to in the west? That was created because BTS was becoming massive that it was too hard to ignore. But instead of allowing them to compete head-on, they boxed them in and created that "kpop category" that current kpop groups look forward tor nomination.
You know those albums that are well stocked and you can buy at Target and Walmart stores, including online distributors like Amazon? It was the BTS armys who started the campaign and convinced these stores to stock up on BTS albums. With its success, they have continued to do it to include other kpop groups.
Remember the most maligned BBMA Social Artist that BTS won? Ohhhh, they were maligned, insulted and laughed at. Guess what? Kpop fandoms started twitter engagements in order to qualify for a nomination the following year. Ahhh! The sour smell of hypocrisy. Many Kpop groups even started their own twitter account right after BTS won.
Kpoppies were looking down on BTS and Army for being chart conscious. Western collabs? Western validation they say? I say, fuck them all. That's exactly what they are all doing right now and no one cries "western validation" anymore.
Don't fucking start with me regarding English releases. Truth be told, English songs have been done by other groups as well, even before BTS, but they are the only once criticized. Tell me. Why is that? Because these 3 FULL ENGLISH songs catapulted them to kingdom come. Now, releasing English songs is non event. Funny how kpoppies perception changes when it comes to their faves.
Let's not forget the Grammy submissions? After BTS got their first major nominations, kpop groups started submitting their music for grammy consideration. Can you blame them? If BTS got a grammy nod, what's to say they wouldn't get one too?
So yes, the KPOP industry closely monitors what BTS do. Why?
Because BTS PAVED THE WAY.
They saw BTS, noticed how obsessive K-pop fans were, and decided to give pity nominations in order to create a separate category to farm impressions.
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Japanese companies are trying to out K-pop company as WhyKnock foretold. Creating a larger spectacle with their MVs (formerly PVs) is just the first step.
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Ah, so they've finally stopped catering to K-pop fans. We all knew it was coming someday. HYBE in shambles
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Minor bop. Is what I voted for.
Since the song is in English, I'm looking at the actual lyrics on a second watch, I'm not really impressed by the lyricism in the video. It's all very basic. I'm not sure what scale I should be grading these on since I assume none are native English speakers, but I'm not sure who's writing these things.
I did watch the music video this time around, and it's really cool.
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"Merry Christmas, Mr Lawrence" is amazing, but this is a mediocre use of the song in my opinion. It feels very underwhelming. It's a BLOP edging towards a flop.
Off of the top of my head, Hikaru Utada's blows this one away, and it's my go-to when comparing poppy remixes of this song:
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