Posts by licoricebtch

Quote from Nevaeh14

No one is denying that overall, MJ and The Beatles are the pinnacle of success but for a singular year, she outdid both

- She's sold over 40m album units just this year

- Her concert movie made 250m despite only being available for like 3 weeks

- Her stadium tour sold out in pre-sale around the world, had millions waiting in queues to buy tickets and is already estimated to be the biggest ever and it's not even half way done

This doesn't even include being named Time Person of the Year something no other musical act has ever achieved or becoming a billionaire just off the strength of her music..

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She has not sold 40 million album units this year. You’re delusional. Maybe total since her career in the US. But not this year.

Concert movies and touring wasn’t as big of a thing back in the 80’s and 90’s. Most artists made their money through physical album sales.

Michael Jackson literally has the best selling album in history for any artist and that’s just pure sales with no easy streaming.

Michael Jackson also has influenced multiple generations of artists to this day!

Top it off, to this day MJ holds the biggest music deal contract in history and it was made after he passed!

Quote from doesitneedsaying

Where did she have cultural impact? In Korea? WW? The Beatles and Micheal Jackson didn't have cultural impact like taylor? how old are you? 9?

God knows how many people will come here next year to Rammstein's concert. Do they have cultural impact here? No, they don't. They just have a lot of fans.

No current western artist have cultural impact here. I know it's hard for you to get it but there you are. The artists you mentioned that had no cultural impact did have cultural impact everywhere. In fact, they changed the music industry. Add Madonna there too.

"Didn't have cultural impact" lol. if there was award for biggest clown on akp you would easily win it

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Might as well add on Whitney, Celine, Mariah, Janet… a whole list of female soloists who have had more cultural impact than Taylor Swift lolol. Hell Britney fucking Spears!

Quote from Nevaeh14

Lol Koreans really do live in their own little world

Not even the Beatles or Michael Jackson had a year like she just did in both sales and cultural impact

Either your’re 10 years old or on crack. Michael Jackson literally has the best selling album of all time and the best selling soloist of all time, he has also influenced every other male pop artist that followed him. She’s not even the best selling female artist….

Exo was THE group back in 2012-2014. SM was ultimately to blame to why they didn’t catch up in popularity to the likes of BTS/Blackpink/Twice. After 2016, BTS steamrolled way ahead them and was never going back. SM stayed with the same ol’ formula and relying on domestic popularity to hopefully carry over internationally. I guess they didn’t realize how big Kpop was growing outside of Korea/Japan/SEA. Honestly noone really expected that.

Then couple that with individual scandals within Exo and SM. To begin with the group was separated between Chinese and Korean lolol. It was a cute idea at first but ultimately lead to a fractured fanbase.

i prefer New Jeans.

Quote from catzi

Dude doesnt matter, consuming only from one source of media is weird af, imagine if people only consumed disney from animations, we wouldn't have fkn shrek

Over 30+ groups debut a year. Most of those are not from HYBE. So not sure where monopoly comes into play in this. Not their fault they have the most successful groups.

Quote from Kataphract

I've come to love the sort of polish that SM imparts into their groups. As a budding sm fan I think it necessary to vocalize some amount of concern over Hybe gaining majority industry share.

Were you not concerned back in 2009 when SM basically had every tv station and award show on a chokehold? Not HYBE’s fault that it capitalized on BTS success by investing its money on buying up less successful labels and diversifying its portfolio.

People complaining about lack of diversity with HYBE when all those groups mentioned have different sounds…

Also I guess most of the fans here are too young to know because back in the mid 2000’s to early 2010’s with the Big 3 (SM, YG, JYP) nearly every group sounded the same outside of them… it was like how do we keep up with SNSD, WG, and 2ne1… oh let’s just copy what they’re doing and see how it works. Atleast now we have many groups who are near the top competing. Hybe is a big reason why Kpop is actually spreading and diversifying.

Who are these literal dozens of groups more deserving? Lol.

Why do people keep trying to discount the US music market and fans when all of Europe + Korea + SEA can’t even compete with the consumer numbers of the US… so yeah there’s a reason why Korean artists want to be successful in the West.

Quote from Rarami

so ive doesnt do anything else? like go tour in different countries? sell albums? sell merch? dont they have brand deals too? those dont make money?

how much are these people making on streams globally after producers and such take the cut?

But literally this thread was to brag about Korean PAKs and that was the basis of them being supposedly the top 4th gen gg?

Quote from Rarami

i didnt know getting pak made money.

obviously getting streams do….

Korea entertainment industry is small af. You can have all the PAK or #1’s all you want in Korea… doesn’t even add up to half the money made from other countries. So who gives af. So yeah NewJeans >>>>>>>

Billboard has changed rules multiple times to screw over Kpop artists. The Hot 100 is so radio focused now with massive payola and not really fan focused. BTS ruled Billboard before massive changes and I guess they couldn’t have that…. Lololol. Not their fault that their fans are willing to buy multiple copies of albums and songs.

Jongga kimchi is gross

Get help

I’m glad the album actually sounds very cohesive. From start to finish it sounds like one artist.

Song is sexy af.

Not Beyonce and Taylor being dragged into this thread as if Blackpink could even…. How stupid.

Quote from X7EL

unrelated but I like ur bright signature

He’s honestly perfect from head to toe.