Get well soon
I'm fully recovered now but thank you so much
Get well soon
I'm fully recovered now but thank you so much
Weren't you the one who said that IVE and NJs are equally popular in SK?
And make a whole thread shading IVE
I was sick with covid, bored as hell, and felt like starting mess.
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Display MoreOkay, Phoenix catzi.
Using KPL's anti-IVE campaign, which appears to be his entire personality, to prove anything is like a tokki using Drew's anti-NJ rants as proof positive of the hate they receive.
You can do better.
*sigh*
We all know I'm the master of receipts. Don't make me pull those out. Is it really worth it?
Naw pull the receipts out, I'm still salty over the UL drama and dives desperately trying to claim IVE was the most popular girl group in Korea even though ALL the evidence pointed to NewJeans.
NewJeans is obviously the most popular girl group in South Korea, I don't think there should be a debate on something so clear. Their success in the U.S is evident too, focusing solely on the general public, NewJeans are the most popular kpop girl group in the U.S after Blackpink, and they're only 2 years into their career. NewJeans' popularity in Japan is something that many people don't focus on because of NewJeans achievements in Korea and the U.S. But if you look at all of NewJean's achievements in Japan, it's clear they're one of the top kpop girl groups in Japan right now.
Not mentioned in kdramas is now off the list of things to discount NJ for
Ditto was played in Twinkling Watermelon so they've shown up in two now
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*RANT*
First of all, there was no schedule so fans had no idea when anything was dropping besides Super Shy and ETA, everything else was announced on phoning the day before which means non-fans were completely in the dark about when songs were getting dropped. Secondly, the mv teasers made no sense. Why did ASAP get the first MV teaser when it was the last song released? Why was ASAP's mv released like a week after the album dropped? Why were the Cool With You concept photos sent out before Super Shy's? Thirdly why was Cool With You released like two days before ETA? When there was a whole week between Super Shy and ETA to release it? The song ended up getting overshadowed by ETA and didn't get it's own spotlight which is weird cause it was advertised as a title track but not treated like one.
Overall the rollout for Get Up made little to no sense and was quite frustrating to witness personally. I think ADOR did this because they were experimenting on how to release an album with that many songs with NewJeans 'every song gets an mv formula. And now was a safe time to do it since they were coming off a huge hit. I also think they were trying to combine strategies from previous comebacks but it just ended up not working. The only reason I think tokkies don't talk about this whole mess more is because Get Up was still very successful. Still, I hope ADOR never tries a rollout like this again. And if they have to at least release a schedule so people know when things are coming out.
Display MoreI'm curious to see all Baemom vs NJ fanwars
A subset of Blinks are really rooting for this group, for some it is a matter of pride that Daemon is the group that will inherit Blackpink's crown
Let's go
Plus some salty dives will be on Baemon's side rooting for NewJeans downfall. Oh, those fanwars are gonna be quite fun to watch.
How quickly the turn changes
Cause you know if it was the other way around...
Display MoreFlexin' about charts screams small pinching-hand_1f90f.png energy tbh i'm above all that.
I'm takin the high road by posting this SOTY, which has more musicality in one bar than all of NJ's elevator music disco put together.
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1. Was wondering when you'd show up
2. YOU are chastizing people for flexing about charts....YOU of ALL people.....ok.
Also, when one of the most defensive dives isn't fighting back, that's when you know tokkies have won
Display MoreI always stated it, but Dives are a delulu bunch. I think they truly believe IVE was going to reign unbothered in Korea but nothing in Ive's chart performance was indicative of that. Sure Love Dive was one of the biggest hits of 2022, but is this really news? Several different 2nd gen GGs had their SOTY yet none of them truly dethrone Girls Generation as the absolute top girl group
This staged releases really came in handy, because now IVE and NJ chart performance can be fairly compared and comes to no surprise to anyone who truly understand the bare minimum of chart dynamics that NJ was bound to perform much better
IVE chart performance still very good though. 3 songs in top 20 is nothing to worry about, IVE is doing well and their next hit is all but secured. Hopefully the aftermath of this comeback is the Tokkis and Dive fanwars will finally be a product of past
Well said. I don't know why Dives get so huffy when people point out that NewJeans are obviously bigger. There is nothing wrong with being number 2 and IVE's success is nothing to scoff at. Just because NewJeans is bigger that doesn't mean that IVE won't go down in history as one of the biggest girl groups in kpop.
They are not equally popular in Korea. NJ is clearly above
NJ release on Friday is actually detrimental for their performance. They still smashing on charts simply because they are outstanding, that's all
Display MoreThey aren't. And that's really the answer to the question.
There is a gap between NewJeans and every other girl group from their generation, even in South Korea.
It's not close no matter how many ULs IVE has.
There is a reason IU herself said NewJeans are the biggest celebrities in Korea, and why Korea has coined the phrase "The world is NewJeans".
There are several metrics that can clearly indicate the gap, but few speak as loudly as this one for their Korea dominance
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(I knew that thread where I compiled their achievements would be a useful quick reference tool!)
Glad we've come to the conclusion that NewJeans are the biggest girl group in South Korea. (Well tokkies have known that since Ditto, as well as since IU outright said it but I'm glad the particularly stubborn people now have blatant evidence that proves us right)
Both IVE and NewJeans are equally popular in South Korea, but despite this, NewJeans charted significantly better with Super Shy and ETA than IVE did with Off The Record and Baddie in Korea. Why is that?
every time someone complains that NJ should advertise for their own demographic more, it's like yeah, they advertise jeans, local glasses brands and literal study courses for uni
nothing wrong with being on Vogue one day and Pepero the next, they're allowed to do both!
Exactly. When it comes to taking brand deals you need a balance. Luxury brands pay more and are better for making industry connections, but local brand deals are seen by everyday people and are better for exposure. NeJeans have the luxury brands on lock so I'm glad they're focusing on exposure by taking more down-to-earth brand endorsements.
JYP is kinda looking like they might be heading that way. They are nugu company levels of incompetent and once Twice and Stray Kids leave it's over for them unless they shape up.