and its not like aespa and ive/nj sales are like 1m difference is barely like 400k, ive even sold close to 1.8m and god know how much will nj sales if one single sold like 1.2-3m, in comparison nj charting internationally to other ggs make them look funny
and btw its not just this forum saying this, knetz think the same
I don't want to discuss about rankings but I noticed that you always putting down aespa. Just for you know, Knetz always saying that ive, nj and aespa belong to the same tier 1.
Also, now aespa sold 2M and the only gg beside aespa that could achieved that is only BP. Even aespa became the Highest 1st week gg sales beating BP. So do you think aespa is closer to BP now?
those are gaon sales not preorders, preorders end the day the album is release
I told them that SM purposely understock aespa album, because if you compare it to other SM acts stock pre-orders, it takes a while for them to achieved PO numbers while for aespa is only takes days to achieved their stock PO numbers which means that SM understock Spicy albums and now aespa eclipsed their PO and now already sold 2M within 2 weeks
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girl u can look forr ANY excuse u want as well as the ranking of gg likes for mvs in the first day
aespa is weak on yt like any other sm group, other ggs do better there, thats all
thats place them 4 along gidle in the charting like many had rank there here
thats IT
And you still hasn't answered my question untill now
To be clear, yt likes and views has flaws like I mentioned above. I'm saying that there're better measurement than using mv likes and views as an indicator for popularity rankings
Bp is bigger + gp attention = more likes in the long run
Even tho the thread is not about twice or bp
my question is why Set Me Free has bigger percentage than Shut Down? and you hasn't answered it until now
Okay, I'm not gonna further drag this discussion longer. This is an easy example to make you understand that 'likes' can't be a good indicator to measure who's got the bigger fandom. The same way with youtube views because nowadays everyone using ads except Bts & Bp.
What does percentage has to do with this if views are manipulated? Twice still has more likes in that video the first days than most groups bc their fandom is bigger, this partially a fandom thing too bc likes can't be manipulated so u can see there how much fandom can help there naturally
Aespa lack in some areas, that just it. There are not "if' or "but", that's just how things are
to be clear I give you an example, Set Me Free has better percentage of views&likes than Shut down so I asked back to you is Onces the bigger fandom because they had better percentage? You always indicate that yt likes is very important
Set Me Free has better percentage of views & likes than Shut Down so do you think Twice is better at performing at youtube because they had better percentage?
You guys think playlisting is some magic like it pls the difference between 16m and 18m is negligible
if a song cannot even stick more then one day on Spotify global what playlisting is deserved do tell
100-200k streams difference is enough to chart in Spotify Global
the bigger playlisting the bigger possibility to gather those number too and investing in Spotify Algorithm (which opening up a possibility of new listeners/streams). SM and warner didn't invest properly in these 2 for aespa.
gotta say though warner is doing good at booking us festivals for aespa. they have 2 upcoming festivals right? they’ll def gather new fans and maybe they think these festivals will translate to future streams??
how long is an account usually shadowbanned for? can’t believe they haven’t gotten the shadowban thing fixed lmao boomers
yes they will had Governor Ball and Outside Lands in SF . They do good job of booking festivals but they didn't invest properly to promote aespa new songs
I don't know but mys has been trying to alerting SM by tagging them . Like they about to go to Cannes but their acc still got shadowbanned
They are under a USA agency like all the other ggs so it's not like others have an edge over them, aespa just perform in Spotify how most sm acts do. One exception u could see was Kai, rover went kinda a tiny bit viral so it charted for some days in Spotify global, smth that's not usual for sm groups
As of now, spicy is 75 in apple music global to lsfrm 30 and Ive 40 so my conclusions come from that ( cupid is 32, seventeen is 52 for consideration) AM charting depend on Japanese charting which both Ive and lsfrm do better, gidle song is still in Spotify global (to my surprise) which probably means their bb global charting will be higher than aespa too
We are talking about SM here, doesn't matter they are suck by not investing more in Spotify playlisting and Tiktok algorithm. Tiktok is vital to make a song goes viral however aespa tiktok acc got shadowbanned until now because the admin is a boomer. Aespa got low playlist and shadowbanned by tiktok, what makes you think aespa is at the same playing field with other ggs?in fact aespa is being handicapped
And warner seems to lost interest to pushing aespa after kakaoxSM plans to create separate US agency
Do you know the difference of charting and not charting in Spotify global is only 200-300k? If SMxwarner invest in playlisting & being smart in Tiktok like the others, aespa would charted in longer like others.
With those playlisting, aespa still gotten the lowest playlist reach compare to their peers. At least, they are got the highest streams & ML from all of SM's.
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Savage was after chart reform no? Every gg switching n1
Many are trending for that last university thing (+ nj for the Levi's thing). Unlike what I thought I don't think the aespa encore did much, it didn't trend in yt korea like I thought it would (and unlike other ggs)
We will see if that do smth for gidle after they start winning next week
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