I think it's mainly that 3G onwards have more hardcore fans. Iirc Wendy outsold Taeyeon in same time frames of their careers yet it's clear to anyone Taeyeon is a much bigger idol and has a significantly bigger appeal to public listeners.
Irene is even more popular than Wendy so it makes sense she's going to be best seller in SM. I wouldn't be surprised if an Aespa member solo album beats Irene and she becomes the best selling female in SM, Karina in particular might even go for 1m.
Yes. Fans are obviously the main money maker and support system for an idol career but having public on board also really helps especially for having careers outside music like TV, fashion etc. There's a reason why groups like SNSD and Big Bang are still very relevant and popular despite not been active as groups for years, they won the public favour and it solified their status. However actually getting the pubic on your side is a huge task and it's extremely easy to lose them through scandals, bad CBs or a new trending group taking the spotlight.
I already took a bullet once.
Make Seohyun president, she'll make South Korea great again. All she has to do is nothing and not go to jail and she's immediately better than 90% of their presidents lol.
Forget charts, ITNW is Korea's 2nd national anthem.
Theres clip scenes like this going around where ITNW is the first song to play at the moment of impeachment
This one is particular a lawmaker gets emotional reciting ITNW which is surreal when you think about the situation going on
Others may get called NGG or things like that but SNSD will always be THE NGG.
It's been an ongoing problem for years that compared to other SM artists Taeyeon barely gets any promo or backing.
She doesn't like doing music shows alone so it makes sense she's not in them but she's barely on elsewhere. She often has a couple TV appearances and that's it like her most recent CB. Other SM acts also get paid ads on YouTube but she never has (personally I've never seen a Taeyeon ad whereas I've seen a few SM BGs ads pop up). Despite all the shes I think the overall the most successful and consistent hit maker in SM since going solo almost a decade ago so she's achieving huge results with very little input which is good for SM but is taking fans for granted or milking them.
Tour wise she's getting the short end of the stick. Her concerts are in smaller venues and only for a couple days. Due to high demand extra days were often added. There were protest trucks at SM last year of fans protesting the small venue sizes when she toured in their counties. Depsite the smaller venues with her last tour Taeyeon became the biggest touring Korean female soloist ever surpassing Boa.
Quality control of her albums and merch has also been an issue with miss spellings, incorrect pictures, low quality materials. Recently her latest mini album is super thin with flimsy packaging and a bunch of ploaroids. It still costs the regular album price.
This time something big happens BTS with management because she's explicitly said things aren't good and she didn't want to attend SM town which is a huge thing to proclaim for SM 30th anniversary. Now it's revealed the official list doesn't have her name meaning she’s not attending and possibly no longer attending future SM towns.
SM has fumbled hard across the board (except Aespa but they’re the biggest group right now) due to new management after LSM was ousted and considering other artists have left in recent years like Exo and Shinee members there's a very real possibility this time she's leaving. It’s the end of an era.
That too, but at the concert, they did it, because they performed before them. At least, that's what people said.
I'm pretty sure those idiots even chanting: "Wonder Girls!" or something like that.
I don't think that's the reason. The order for most Kpop concerts is senior idols or more popular idols sing last or close to last. SNSD going earlier would make sense because they're rookies. TVXQ would have been near the end or right at the end.
Yeah they did chant wonder girls to spite SNSD
It was a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure those "fans" were angry, because SNSD performed before their TVXQ, I think, and they didn't want to wait and listen to a girl group. It was madness! The video is still up on YT, you can see them crying on stage.
Yes, Wonder Girls were more popular.
Nah it was 100% because of fans of TVXQ and Suju being jealous SNSD were close to their faves including starring in CFs and TV shows together which led to rumors of them dating. The hate was already huge online with mutiple sites being anti SNSD and this carried onto real life.
The best part is in 2013 SNSD did dream concert and got the entire stadium full of fans of other groups holding up their light sticks singing along to their songs word for word. It was so loud the broadcast version used their normal cd songs instead of live audio of the event.
This is like the 80th time Hyo has complained about this lol, I think it's time to just accept idols these days lack basic manners/respect
Hmm this rookie group has a great song, insane live singing and dancing, and a hit with the public already. I think they'll have a bright future ahead of them.
Kpop companies always have been the worst. Slave contracts, crazy diets, lack of sleep, sexual abuse, debt/scams. You name it they've done it.
Elon musk used Twitter to spread misinformation, get around directly buying votes (his 1m giveaway) and now is part of the gov. A CEO basically manipulated an entire election and is rewarded with more opportunities to get even richer and more powerful.
Trump himself was a businessman and celeb and he became president. Twice.
America praises CEOs a shit ton.
Display MoreWanted to say the same. The album sales, the promotions, even the freakin' Live Clip releases were a MESS! SM apologized like 2 times because they messed up her schedules.
And this isn't even new anymore. Honestly, I think THE ONLY reason Taeyeon signed with them again, because no other company could handle a massive star like Taeyeon. She obviously can't sign with the other BIG4 agencies, if she goes for a smaller company, she can't have half of the freedom and PR that she has at SME, even tho it's still crap.
People think, it's so easy to leave a company.
There's only one thing I could imagine her doing. Going to EDAM, because IU is one of closest friend, and I can only see EDAM handling her as an artist.
Are Taeyeon and IU friends? Theres like only a couple pictures ever of them together, I don't Taeyeon ever met up with her like she has with other non SNSD people like Key or Yeri.
South Korea and crazy presidents, name a more iconic duo.
it would be funny if he goes on Interpol list like LSM.
To be fair, everyone who left sm in peaceful way performed their songs, no problem, no issues(cbx are exception to that rule, I never saw someone suing sm and still promoting as strongly as they did). I doubt sm can block her catalogue but I absolutely do think that they would fight dirty to keep her.
I agree with you that die to management change her position in sm also changed, my guess is that she stayed for so long in sm was because she has already been with them for so long, had whole vault of songs and best producers in one place, sm is well oiled machine (especially compared to start up and small agencies) and agency doesn't depend on her so she can work and take breaks as she wants. This time tho... she seems serious.
Yeah it's true that those who leave peacefully get a bit more leeway but I think Taeyeon renewed not that long ago or is at least still in current contract for a while longer and with the fuss shes making it she decides to leave ASAP things might get a bit messy. She might be in the dungeon if the heads feel she's stepping too far, I mean she's practically refusing to attend SM town that's not a good look for SM.
If she does leave on bad terms then I fully think it wouldn't be out of character for SM to make it difficult for Taeyeon access to her catalogue. She has her own huge collection of music which rivals a full groups output and she also has SNSD, that gives her one of the biggest catalogues in all of Kpop, you can bet SM will try to milk her if she tries to use her music.
