This.......has to be a joke
... I linked the wrong thing
does this look familiar???...
And that someone is a BTS anti who constantly puts them down and has even mocked them for their accent despite being Asian himself. BTS have done what you might’ve wanted from them, to learn from their mistakes, to speak up about racism (including BLM) and hate, to show appreciation and credit black innovators whom they’ve benefitted from.
It feels disingenuous to then use this as an opportunity to rehash the members’ past wrongs to someone who doesn’t even like them and is just using them to shield his own internalized racism, especially in a thread that’s not even about BTS but about BP whom are being defended all throughout this thread for not speaking up about these issues. But you don’t have much to say about the actual idols in question...
first of all i didnt even know who liked who, second i didn't use this as a "opportunity" i say a comment saying the BTS should speak up about BLM, and thats who i responded to with what i had to say, soooooo ur mad why???
What racial slurs did they use multiple times?
What racial slurs did they use multiple times?
What is there to speak about?
Under your thinking, they should speak out because they are Asians, that thinking is basically racism
r u talking 2 me? if so... huh? but if not nvm.
I understand your concern. People should give credit where it's due, but I'm not sure what your point is. They've always made sure to give credit as to what their influences are.
They may have done and said some culturally insensitive things, but the key thing to remember here is intention. They were always about giving credit to black people and black culture. They worked with black artists and producers in the hip-hop industry. They aren't out there claiming they're the pioneers and founding fathers of hip hop. They're learning from the greats (sometimes directly) and putting it into their own art. Isn't that what racial integration is all about?
It's all about perspective. You could choose to see the ways in which they've bridged cultures as a group or you can choose to overgeneralize the industry as a whole and call everyone racist.
I never called anyone racist, and the intention does not matter they said racial slurs and culture appropriated multiple times. I'm not necessarily talking about credit this came up because I was responding to someone who said that they should speak up about BLM, and they said that it was stupid that ppl were getting mad at it because they are Asian. I responded with they should because they have done many things to offend the black community and they benefit from black culture.
im not "lashing out" on anyone i replied to someone
lol i see.
Well, i'll be urging BTS to speak up about BLM since they're "benefiting" from black culture when i see black chefs or martial artists or interpreters or Asian-inspired architects who are all "benefiting" from Asian culture speak up about social issues in Japan, Korea, China, SEA etc. Why dont we see black mathematicians, scientists, and engineers speak up about Hindu-Arab social issues, you realize that they've all been benefiting from the Hindu-Arab numeric system, right?
and like i said that wasnt the only reason BTS have said and done a lot of things that offended the black community.
lol i see.
Well, i'll be urging BTS to speak up about BLM since they're "benefiting" from black culture when i see black chefs or martial artists or interpreters or Asian-inspired architects who are all "benefiting" from Asian culture speak up about social issues in Japan, Korea, China, SEA etc. Why dont we see black mathematicians, scientists, and engineers speak up about Hindu-Arab social issues, you realize that they've all been benefiting from the Hindu-Arab numeric system, right?
No, no really and ur right they should and have been if u would do some research, and im confused on y u put quotation marks around benefiting like their are not???...
Can anyone explain to me why BP or any Kpop group needs to "speak up" on racism against Asians when they live in a country that is 99.9% Asian? Lisa is the only one that experiences hate (from Koreans) but this aint even racism since Thais and Koreans are both Asian. Unless they experienced racism in their US or Europe tour dates, they literally never interact regularly with non Asians.
I said the same thing when woke Army was turning on BTS for ignoring BLM. I was like are they freaking stupid? What does BTS have to do with white cops murdering black Americans in broad daylight? If Kpop bands are now responsible for social causes in the US because American fans "buy their music", why the fuck arent American celebrities being held responsible for speaking up about social causes in Korea? After all, Koreans consume a lot of American music, TV, movies, etc that are lining the pockets of these celebrities.
we wanted them to speak out about it because its the least they can do, they have said and done may racist things to the black community, and BTS and kpop in general benefit off of black ppl and culture. Your ignorant in inexcusable and sad.
Hairstyles result of specific hair textures. They're a byproduct. Stop bringing the stigma against braided hair all the time, the rest of the world is not responsible for the shit that's going on in your fucked up country.
Look at this dude. King Buzzo from the Melvins. Look at his hair. With this kind of hair, he could very well braid them as it would suit his hair texture. But I guess people like would be offended just because he's white.
their r certain hairstyles that belong to the black culture
i wouldnt say anything cuz i am not white or black but i would think its a little strange that you want to change your race. Also people might get mad at me but racism towards white people definitely exist. It may not be pointed out or regarded but it definitely exists. It isnt as bad as the racism towards black people or other races tho.
u cant be racist 2 yt ppl
Maybe in sometimes overreacting stuff that isn’t that deep...
ohhhhhhh like my culture? like the ''hairstyles'' my ancestors used to escape being raped, beaten? like people thinking my skin color is ugly because it is dark? can u explain more?
It was a generalization so of course not all POC play the victim card but a lot do, of course you can call it out I never said you shouldn't. What you quoted was part of a conversation in which I was trying to say that in my experience it is more acceptable for POC to call cultural appropriation than white people, that's all I was saying. If you feel that your culture is being used then you should call it out
how do we play victim?
I already said this but I guess you need repetitiveness. I didn't mean that black people themselves were loud because they are black, I meant that when cultural appropriation happens or they see something they don't agree with, they are the group that usually calls it out that loudest. This doesn't mean that all black people are loud or that it is a bad thing or that they shouldn't be that way. It just means that they are generally used to being able to call racist and cultural appropriation easier than any other culture or race because they get to play the victim card and no one else can
Call me racist if you want, that's just poison for you own mind and clarity for mine, I don't care if you think I'm racist because I honestly get called that a lot just for breathing a word of truth
I also never said I was white but ok
we dont play the victim card, whoever appropriated OUR culture we call it out y is that a problem, if other culture choose not to call it out then that is on them, we can feel however we want about out culture being used as an aesthetic.
