Posts by helixvc

Quote from 4d-maknae

I know it's your brand to belittle any group that isn't your faves but just fyi, nct dream can't chart on Billboard because they don't have distribution in the US, so they aren't in the same position as nct 127 and nct 2020, whose albums were distributed there due to 127 contract with Capitol

There are tons of groups without any distribution who charted in BB200.

It's a cheap excuse especially when you know how BB200 are working.

Even 2nd generation groups like Bigbang or 2NE1 8 years ago charted there with literally 0 presence in the States.

Bts One direction level or higher =>5M

Twice 600k

Enyhpen 300k+

Stray kidz 300k+

Red Velvet 300k

Gidle 100k

Itzy 100k

People in this thread are so insecure haha

Of course China fans helped a lot.

Exo recent comeback got carried by Chinese fans

BP Chinese fans bought 1/3 from Blackpink lastest album.

Nct dream Yt views without ads are average, their digital sales are average, their Spotify streams are below average, they are nowhere in the BB200 but they sold almost 2M its easy to see where the sales are coming.

Enyhpen probably but still not 100% sure.

Aespa didn't have any albums + when the new GG from Hype or YG pull a blackpink debut or even a similar then it's goodbye for Aespa.

Quote from ohpuhlease

Okay nincompoops listen for the last time. Two separate teams manage them. One is not responsible for the other

But still why the hell are coming back at the same period???

Everyone and their mamas know that BTS will block 1-3 months the charts till the next super well known star Korea is coming back like IU or Yoo Jae suk.

Even now Exo or twice couldn't bring them down in the big Korean charts.

The same with Blackpink with 2 comebacks (ice cream and Lovesick girls)

I would say their fans became lazy in streaming. In zombie stream time.

Sadly they became stronger and stronger in digitals which is not funny anymore because there are no fanwars anymore because OS the dominance which is getting bigger and bigger.

Quote from 4d-maknae

If you think groups like bp and nct are selling millions thanks to bts do you agree bts first becoming million seller back then was thanks to exo, right?

Exo million seller is and was always a fraud.

Combining 4 different albums from full albums, Chinese versions and repackage albums and counting as 1 album is nothing special.

Especially when you look deeply and see that groups like SNSD and Suju were selling the same amount of albums but never get the chance to combine all their albums from different languages and so on as 1.

Not so my style but I can't lie a good song with very good vocals.

But the rap part ist horrible.

V and rose

No one else

Nah, nct sold this much albums because of the influence of BTS in the new era.

Their impact in and outside Korea is not even the half as Exo.

Quote from Talk_to_my_hand

And JYP groups get heat cuz the use em

Because that is Photoshop. And jyp groups in general have with SM groups (except the senior ones) a massive ad boost that is no way organic.

Respect Jennie?

Don't compare her to this rookie.

Quote from Tic_tac_toe

Not particularly no. For example people hardly see 2012/13 GGs as 3rd gen. GGs generation and how their career trajectory operates is different.

Now if you haven’t an argument other than bringing in a GG maybe try to make that.

Loooooooool it's not hahah what are you writing.

Quote from chounim

And did I say Dream were 4th generation? That's the point you were trying to refute in your reply to me, but that's a point I didn't even make. So, idgaf about your argument.

Then don't quote me weirdo.

If you dgaf about my argument why are you in my mentions???

Quote from chounim

Quote from chounim

Idgaf

You wrote a whole damn a$$ essay I do think you give a f

Quote from Artemosia

I didn't, it just further demonstrates how lame the other BGs' performance is when they wish they could stay within top 100 at least a full day

Ironic when see the past when nct was before 2020 not existed in the digital charts except for zombie streaming

Quote from www1717

Idk what you guys history with this OP, really

I'm new user in here. You can check my profile.

What's that?? You should watch your grammar first before falsely accusing someone

Just forgot a word lol

Quote from chounim

The way HYBE stans are acting in this thread you'd think NCT are flopping so we need to shift them to a new generation to make it look like they're successful. NCT don't need the goalposts to change to be successful. They're ARE a top group regardless of the generation and the competition.

It does not matter when NCT Dream debuted, what matters is what generation their career is going to coincide with. You all can keep pretending this so called 4th generation exists in a vacuum just to assign some stupid titles to your faves but reality is something else entirely.

But of course, international fans know better what constitutes a new generation in kpop than Koreans themselves

By this logic Bts is still a 4th generation group because they are still by mile gap at the top.

Quote from myaza

They debuted in 2016, how are they 4th gen? Whats next, BTS is 4th gen?

Quote from Artemosia

TXT stans getting brave when they can't even chart their title track on Melon a day and even on Flo ALL 10 tracks from Dream's album are still charting higher than Lovesong even though it's been 3 weeks it's been out. Regardless of the gens Dream is only behind BTS in physical and digital performances now, it's not like they need to start the 4th gen narrative for themselves

You are acting cracking the top32 in melon for a 5 year old boy group is a big achievement? Lmaoooo

Quote from www1717

The OP just wishes that aespa will be doing great like twice

It's not like the OP slandering Twice.

And you still can't read or you wanna play the delusional user??

The OP was one of the biggest twice era when they were at the top. So why should she wish that when she spent years of hating twice?