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Are you Chinese by any chance?
The C-trainees mostly looked like regular girls you'd see in the streets of Shanghai. And all three teams blended visually. Except for the mixed member, there's more visual diversity in RV alone with Irene - Seulgi - Yeri.
I didn't see any trainee who could potentially be another Wonyoung, Xiyeon, or Yiren. I think these trainee selection overall carries on 'charm' factor rather than raw visual.
im not chinese but that an interessing point of vue
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Honestly I agree. The Chinese girls are above the rest when it comes to visuals IMO, but that’s almost always the case. Just watch a Chinese survival show (be it a girls or boys). And the Japanese girls seem more charismatic.
I had the same issue with Produce 48. The Korean trainees were definitely more skilled but they also were very…idk charmless(?) in comparison.
yeah it's almost like they lack heart or have no passion for what they are doing that maybe because of kpop trainee system or culture
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I appreciated your post.
Speaking as a non-NCTzen and someone who likes their music a lot.
Tho I think SM is actually good at promoting NCT, their comeback schedules are confusing, but not as badly planned as LOONA's units were.
Those who like NCT as a whole/the brand itself, always get new music, it's fun.
Sticking to a concept is great to create music identity and a dedicated fandom that like that concept (I'd 100% stan the minimalistic/atmospheric NCT U you're suggesting, since it was my fave concept of NCT songs in general), but it's not the current vision of SM Ent in terms of music as far as I've noticed.
NCT is an experimental group, so I wouldn't expect them to fix with a single concept.
loona predebut planning was a mess in therm of management they should have do every 2 years sub-unit activity and treat them like prelogy of the loonaverse like star wars, I will do a post about loona
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First off, welcome to AKP!
I feel like the units are still pretty distinguishable. NCT U has always been a hybrid of all the elements. NCT Dream is still brighter, friendlier and poppier than NCT 127. I can’t imagine the 127 squad singing a song like Hello Future or Dive Into You.
127 has always been more hip hop-driven in one side of their work, and warmly r&b driven in the other, with a helping of swaggy attitude.
I don’t think I’m seeing as much of a change in their style as you are, because they’ve always hopped around between genres, from experimental to smooth, depending on the song - for every Cherry Bomb, there’s a Good Thing, for every Gimme Gimme or Lipstick, there’s a Come Back or Summer 127.
On the MVs, if I’m understanding you correctly, you’re missing having a plot vs performance, I think. For 127 at least, that feels more like a one time deal because the majority of MVs after that were driven by performance or mood/aesthetic rather than a story. Or more simply, it’s hard to say they stopped doing it if they only really did it one time.
I can’t speak to plots on Dream MVs, because I don’t remember tbh and am too lazy to look right now, but they always struck me as being brightly and highly saturated colors, often with full daylight sunshine in a way that was different from even the outdoor location 127 videos (Highway to Heaven is outside but the colors are very much soft, golden tones and desert colors..)
Just as an FYI, there’s a NCT-related guild here on AKP, which is a space where NCTzens talk about all things NCT. Head to the Neo chat room and say hi!
I feel like the problem is not that they are interchangable or that their song are bad but rather that lost their unique sound identity
I like MVs with stories but I can also love MVs with more performance, I love fire truck, limitless, cherry bomb, boss and 6sense MVs equally but for different reason, and I feel like that since simon says we didn't have an mv of this quality.
thanks for the nct guild thing I will tcheck
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Hello Future is very much on brand for NCT Dream. Youthful and colorful. Actually, the whole album was on brand. The other sub-units can't pull off that sound.
Also, we're talking about SM here. They won't recycle previous concepts and songs. They move forward musically and keep experimenting with different sounds, whether you or we like it or not.
hello future feel very nct dream but for me that song belong to an nct 20XX album and not nct dream album
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There are a couple of girls in the k-group that caught my eye for sure in terms of visuals. (kim sooyeon, kang yeseo, an jungmin, lee hyewon) But in general, because of their strict beauty standards, not a lot of diversity in visuals. Something else felt like it was missing in their performance.. I don't think it was skills, but maybe passion/energy? To me, it looked like the c-group and j-group wanted to be there and gave it their all. Could also be their center, as they do set the tone for the performance, and both the c/j centers stood out much more. It's also really early and we barely see much. Can't wait till it starts!
you're right, my picks fot the k group are an jungmin,kang yeseo, kim bora, kim chaehyun, kum doah, kim sooyeon, lee chaeyun, lee-ra-yeon, shim seung eun, yoo dayeon and yoon jia
they did great for the second party of the song but for the first party they lacked power and energy
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I hope I'm wrong, I didn't want to say that they are untalented because they aren't but Im afraid that korean and japanese trainee will be overshadow by chinese one
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Hello, Im new on the site this is my first post
I’m disappointed by the k trainee selection but I was expecting that for this competition mnet and cjm will not do what they have do in produce 48 but they have do worse clearly the people who selection the k trainee didn’t have the same objective in mind or were not the same people than the the one who selected the c trainee, clearly for the c group they choose experience and talent before visual but for the k group they choose visual over all
But don’t get the wrong idea I knew that the overall level of Chinese participant will be better than the Korean (I watched produce 101 china and youth with you )but clearly their first objective was not talent, that doesn’t mean that there isn’t people with great talent in the k group who are really good or excel at least at one category, vocal, dance, rap or stage presence (ex: Bora and seung eun), yes korea is country a lot more homogene ethnicly than china and so naturally you will have less diversity physic and facial among them but the k group look too similar that was not an accident i feel they have a specific visual in mind, compare to weki meki or bvndit or the 1 season of produce 101 or the survival show the unit in term of visual diversity and you will see the difference, people want to make me believe that in the 40 million Korean hab that mnet or cjm couldn’t find 33 girls between 16 and 25 years old who look diverse enough without them being ugly , who have at least one talent and are decent performer.
If Korean don’t update their game in the near future the public will go to look for the Japanese and china idol market the Chinese market is still young but they will catch up really fast and eat them even the japan overall has better dancer ( the dance level in korea is mediocre even for big compagnies ) and they are not as much stan atrractor than the Japanese girls in generale.
I wish good for luck for the Japanese and Korean trainees maybe they will surprise us.
