Posts by ISaidISaid
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But that’s luck not based on brand value.
Can new jeans get “lucky” sure maybe they’ll have their 50-50 moment with a viral song.
But for me that’s not really a big deal or something that speaks about them or their popularity in specific
If that was the question any group can have a viral hit but that’s not really interesting success.
Will new jeans be able to consistently get the streams they got under HYBE just based on their own popularity? Just by releasing good songs and not really relying on “luck” and “going viral”
The answer is no.
Their average streams will go down and they will have less visibility on international streaming platforms.
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Lmao
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That's the biggest streamer in the literal world, vibing to NewJeans music after the biggest Asian streamer on Twitch's platform streamed ETA after he secured that very honor for the first time. NewJeans will never be irrelevant globally.
This was embarrassing to read lol.
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And? Other GG don’t have even have that so yes GIDLE would be special.
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I’ll include the 2nd Gen G’s based only on how much of their achievements reached me
Not really in order as I don’t think you can compare GG’s from different eras
2nd Gen
SNSD, 2ne1, Sistar, Wonder girls
3rd Gen
Twice, Blackpink
4th Gen
New Jeans, Aespa, (IVE, Gidle?)
Tbh it’s hard to name 10 groups because 4th Gen is still on going and there is a bias.the other gens have faded even tho some had hits they might have faded towards the end of it. So maybe MMM or Gfriend or FX deserve it more than the 4th Gen groups. But I never hear about these group compared to SNSD or BP/Twice so i don’t feel like including them in the list either.
2nd they didn’t have any impact to the industry music wise or concept wise, also individual members of bp aren’t iconic idols themselves! So I
Like do people just type anything these days
Like I understand having subjective opinions about art and music but out right making up lies is indeed funny.
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They are nice and their music is nice.
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When people start responses this way, I deem them trolls and shut my eyes to the rest.
more like I completely ended your argument an you had no rebuttal lol.
You literally used the fallacy that gets mocked at in logical circles. It’s not even some subjective opinion lol. You simple cannot make the inferences you made based on those facts unless you’re stupid.
Hope this helps ❤️
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I will say one thing tho I think it’s annoying if like normies keep passing rude comments about kpop without ever giving it a chance and are entirely dead set on their biases and prejudice
I don’t think those type of ppl bring anything interesting to the table.
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They’re fun and their music is fun.
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sure, bring nj into the mix if it helps to cope - ain’t gonna change the fact they’ve been benched and surpassed by most 4th gen groups, rapping about selling out sofi and metlife like we don’t know that’s the only achievement they have left 😂 your glory days are over, just let it go grandma
This is kind of embarrassing to type because yes selling sofi or met life or Nissan is indeed a bigger achievement than ever single digital record that new jeans or any 4th gen group has ever held lol.
Your digitals performance and the like only have meaning if ppl put their money where their mouth is and come to your concert.
Even in the west these new gen artists who have these huge singles and flop selling tickets are mocked and ridiculed.
Fans of a group who has literally never been on tour really should be quiet. You guys have ZERO skin in the game and are completely irrelevant until you get to prove that you’re gonna sell those tickets.
This is not to say these groups will or won’t sell tickets only that they haven’t yet proven it with a big tour so it’s best to stfu lol.
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She is one of the best.
But great vocals in Kpop is as relevant as great cooking skills in a McDonalds.
Bad skills will be noticed, but superlative will be ignored and redundant.
Taeyeon was noticed as a formidable vocalist even before Soshi debuted, yet her success as a soloist is because of Soshi.
Because mere great vocals aren't enough in Kpop.
Otherwise EXID Solji, Kim Boa etc. would be the top tier stars.
You need something more,
IU went with Lyricism and good acting career.
But other vocalists largely struggle, if they aren't from top groups or have an additional X factor.
If I want to hear great vocals, I would rather look at classical or opera singers, not Kpop.
This is such a stupid argument I always roll my eyes at it.
There are successful singer who can sing and there are successful singers who are mediocre. This neither means good vocals are NEVER needed nor does it mean good vocals are ALWAYS needed. Because that’s not how you make inferences.
People CAN become successful for different reasons and people can also remain unsuccessful for different reasons.
Having good vocals was required for Taeyeon to be successful. It may not be a requirement for some others to be successful. And these are not mutually exclusive statements.
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Haven’t heard SNSD but between aespa and rv b sides it’s rv for me
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You are constantly shading 2nd gen groups not just snsd it just happened that I quoted your Snsd related reply🤣
And it is a proof that 2nd gen groups can be more profitable than 3d gen ones
So you didn’t read and accept that SNSD and 2nd gen GG’s will NEVER be as profitable as 3rd gen and beyond?
Ok good. Please don’t waste other people’s time if you don’t what’s the point of discussion. This a thread about Twice and about GG’s.
I never once said all of 2nd gen is unprofitable compared to 3rd it’s only the GG’s.