Posts by VVisual

Maybe a group of 33.

11 from each nationality .

It'll be KPOP's AKB.

She's a main vocal too.

But with the giant tattoo on her back, she wouldn't get a lot of CFs in Korea to be honest.

Quote from bartkun

Also I've now remembered that he was guest mentor on Chuang 2020. Damn I hope he didn't try to do anything fishy to girls then...

I wanted to wait before saying anything until I knew more.

But him being close to 101 girls in Chuang really bothered me.

The Chuang 2020 class seem to have some very strong personalities like Zhuoxuan, Feifei, Curley and Yiyang who probably would never allow some guy to get away with that kind of stuff to them or their teammates.

Cai Lu said the same thing. She said in quite a few TV interviews that Fiestar never made any money for the girls but she was grateful for LOEN giving them the chance.

Between Yezi and Cai Lu, it was a pretty talented group it seems. (I found out about Cai Lu and Fiestar after reading that Kang Daniel was a backup dancer for Cai Lu on a show. lol )

Chuang 2020 had the first bare-midriff tops along with the slit pants-skirt. Initially, I thought the garter was too much. But it was pretty well done especially the way things were paired with the white jacket and navy tie, vest and belt.

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Planet 999 purple top and skirt don't quite match IMHO:

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Especially the pants skirt. But not quite as attractive.

Girls who wore both.

Su Ruiqi:

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Cui Wenmeixiu

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Shen Xiaoting:

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Quote from godkingteshub

I'm just talking about the 33 C trainees. In my opinion I didn't see a stand out visual in the tier of Yiren or Wonyoung. Obviously visual isn't the only thing, they could be extremely charming or be stan attractors, but you can't deny visual is a very important part in the industry. For ex, Ju Jingyi, she wasn't super talented or anything but she was very popular due in great part to her visual. Despite that, the C team has cute and pretty looking trainees

Ju Jingyi is pretty talented. Violin, solid dancing, acting and a voice good enough for OSTs.

To be perfectly honest, Wonyoung and Yiren though top rated visuals would actually have had a hard standing out at Chuang 2020 or YWY2 -- when compared to Kiki, Yi Yang or Zhenyu.

There are some very good visuals among this group according to traditional standards.

Zhou Xinyu (former SM)

Xu Ruowwei

Cai Bing

You know, I like Meiqi a lot. But Justin's been my baby since PD101 S2 and IP.

It is NOT okay that he should be doing anything sexy with any girl! No!

I became crazy mom fan over the years. lol

OMG! The fans' singing is amazing! This is a CONCERT!

It won't be another PD48 where MNET pretty much built its mainline story line on how undertrained the "foreign" girls are. That's for sure.

Not with girls like Roada, Su Ruiqi and the center Xiaoting and their experience from YWY and Chuang on the C-Group.

Even considering that the K-Group have debuted members of Fanatics and Cherry Bullets (Kim Doah, Rayeon, Bora, Jiwon), I thought the C-Group's perf was a bit better. And the song was in Korean!

Looks are subjective but the C-Group also stood out visually.

From those pictures:

Eliwa and Sun XiaoYan.

Quote from bartkun

I'm actually glad... because the difference between 1 tomboy and other cute/sexy girls is kind of too much

they managed to do it well with The9 thanks to Yuxin, K Lu, and Kiki or Yu Yan mixin things also with shorter hair

but on the other hand I'm happy that in BonBon Girls Zhao Yue can basically do whatever she wants with her hair and no one expected her to keep short hair

Zhao Yue has short hair but she is the farthest thing from a Tomboy. Girls see her body as equisitely female. Nene said so explicitly. lol

On 7Senses, the Tomboy role is taken up by Diamond more often than not.

Quote from cxsey

6 Korean, 1/2 Japanese, 1/2 Chinese

I don’t see Mnet letting more than 3 foreigners to make it into the group.

1/2 Japanese and 1/2 Chinese? Too bad Hua Chiyo didn't join. She's half Japanese and half Chinese.

That way the Koreans can fill both the Japanese and Chinese members with one girl and leave the other eight spots for Koreans

Hua Chiyo -- both Japanese and Chinese

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For KPOP:

Everglow and Dreamcatcher.

For Asia, you can't get more epic than SNH48 and their MVs:

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Shit posts? Tell me next time when your fav trended 100th times on weibo They sure will soon tho since they have chinese member BUT Lisa being Thai reaching this level of popularity in China that most of your favs will never do if they are not native

Well Thais are pretty popular in China not just Lisa.

Nene of the Bon Bon Girls was on two skyscrapers just a week ago for her birthday :)

https://mobile.twitter.com/cat…tatus/1408390321243779078

She is the THIRD Thai to make a CPOP nation GG.

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I guess the US government will start funding American singers so that China can't use SM Entertainment to conquer over the world.

Without the singular exception of BTS, KPOP has nobody that China can really use to "conquer" the world.

These are the top 40 grossing acts in 2019, the last full year before the pandemic. There is exactly one KPOP group in there:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/z…-of-2019/?sh=331ad05d164e

People here overestimate KPOP's power outside Asia. And if you listened to those nationalist KNetz instead of LSM, its power in Asia will be diminished since China is not only the largest market but the fastest growing one as well.

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there has to be reason why is he obsessed with china

Yes, the reason is the export of Korean pop culture. People today don't understand how important LSM was to the rise of KPOP and Hallyu in general.

Much of the system you see today came from SM and LSM's realization that the Korean market cannot support the entertainment companies' future.

In order to grow, K-Ent needed to export its pop culture outside and because of the population size and cultural proximity, China has to be an early target. Concentrating on the US and Europe in 1990s would have never allowed Hallyu to reach critical mass.

If KDrama/Kpop never took over China, it wouldn't dominate Asia today. Because if China did not switch over to KDrama and KPOP, they might have continued supporting the Taiwanese pop music and Hong Kong movies and dramas that held the Chinese diaspora market across Asia in the 1980s and early 90s. Once Hallyu happened in China, the diaspora market changed too and Korean ent not only gained China but helped removed rivals as well.

Whatever you think of China, it is growing very fast. Chinese KPOP idols go back to China because they can make more money there. Movies make much more in the China box office than in Korea. CFs are much more lucrative in China.

Wonyoung's dad is a hwagyo (Chinese-Korean) whose parents came from Shandong and took Republic of China (Taiwan) citizenship but had never lived in Taiwan. The ROC citizenship was common for hwagyo.

There is a reason Wonyoung never talks about this, hwagyo are discriminated against even though they gave Korean its iconic noodle dish:

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They noticed that as idol industry increased in Korea the birth rates crashed down

And China needs more babies now, so they're are doing it so young adults do what nature intended instead of obsessing over a handful of female or male idols

Also there are articles about the "effeminization" of the Chinese population because of idol culture.

So I guess they'll pour more resources into toxic masculinity shit like war movies and first person shooter games.

That said, there seems to be a lot of Thai postings on Twitter that Chuang 2022 is happening (albeit with a different voting format) and they are already discussing candidates they want to be in 2022. Don't know how accurate they are.

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This is her? She's barely darker than the last two people to play Snow White in a movie.

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Lol. If they wanted to be inclusive and still be true to the name, they could gotten an Asian idol to play Snow White.

I'm thinking Kyulkyung:

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