Posts by Neurotic02

    They debuted after the acquisition, so how they're different. One of the members was even an ex-Bighit trainee. This group didn't have the same contract as Svt to have more freedom from Hybe management.


    Come on, even their korean fans complaining about this. I always check Korean forums, and it's too quiet for a group with hit song like them in Korea. Riize hot posts now is not even about their controversies, but their visuals, their members to even the smallest activities they're doing. And you're putting too much hope in Pledis, the same company that has ruined almost all groups under them despite those groups huge potential. Svt is the exception bc the members were doing almost everything by themselves back then.

    Exactly. I agree with everything and that’s my reason


    Your title is :

    Hybe groups always have a good beginning, but the company doesn't know how to sustain the hype for a long time


    But TWS by no way got the same treatment of promotion like other hybe rookies or even bgs. They didn’t go to korean shows excep what? Mmtg and odg? Unlike bnd and illit who’s literally everywhere. And how could you measure tws with riize’s popularity when riize debuted last year and had several comebacks already to build their fandom



    Tws just debuted this January with barely and almost no promotion despite their song becoming a national hit. I think for now tws is like a new gg where gp knows the song more than the artists hence this statement proves nothing. They can have a hit song but their fanbase still not that big yet


    Where has the hype for Tws gone when their debut song did so well?


    and since tws is under pledis (unlike some other subsidiaries), hybe surely wont put their utmost resources and effort to promote them

    Where has the hype for Tws gone when their debut song did so well?

    Well for TWS (and Pledis groups) you cannot really put them in the same basket as Hybe groups. Why? Because they are too Pledis to be Hybe


    They debuted the same way like Seventeen. Bubbly, fresh, cute concept that the koreans will eat up. But I do believe Pledis didn’t expect it to be THAT huge. So they took things slowly to build their stable fandom and career (which I personally prefer rather than magnetic type of fame)


    Then “where did the hype go?” TWS is mainly popular in SK rn. Surely you wont see English speaking stans talking about them that much esp in akp. Not to mention Riize’s hot topics sometimes related to scandals like sungchan and sohee, etc etc

    Looks fire 🔥


    To think we will get another mv for Spell (performance unit) and Cheers to Youth (Vocal Unit)

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    I was wondering how jennie and zico didn't get the #1 on circle this week. Seventeen blocked them

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    If im not mistaken, 31M is the highest circle weekly digital point this year. Cmiiw


    Bibi Bam Yang Gang peak at 28M

    illit magnetic at 26M

    Gidle Fate at 24M

    IU Love Wins All at 23M



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    Sure, Hybe only manage the subsidiaries. Including changing Pledis CEO to ex-bighit. And kicking Pledis VP to Hybe Japan. Hence there’s nolonger any OG Pledis management in Pledis itself. Sure, they definitely don’t have aby involvement such as the change of Caratbong color or Seventeen content opening


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    Tbh, i was an avid album buyers since 2018 for Seventeen. I bought all their versions just because THEIR ALBUMS WERE SO GOOD!! It was worth it with cute inclusions


    But after the acquisition the design started to look sloppy and messy. They knew Seventeen would still sell so they put some formality


    I bought all their albums until Henggarae. An Ode was their last album before acquisition and Henggarae their first after acquisition. It was a HUGE downgrade. Design and inclusion wise


    Then I stopped buying altogether. you can see their design become more horrendous and lazy as time passes

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    Well I personally haven’t seen anyone making this topic. But next week gonna be interesting


    Zico & Jennie with godly digital

    IVE with good balance of digital + sales

    Seventeen with decent digital + crazy sales + fandom power


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    With the recent allegations one might suspect the chaos of Seventeen’s first day sales is a sabotage


    For a back story: Seventeen’s last 2 albums have 3M first day sales, consecutively.


    FML ㅡ 3,998,373

    SEVENTEENTH HEAVEN ㅡ 3,288,017

    17 IS RIGHT HERE ㅡ 2,260,906 🆕️


    But somehow the new album has been understocked in a lot of stores without additional information. They also just started to actually ship it in the evening (around 7 PM)


    Sure this is a special album, mostly old songs and have 2x price of the regular albums. But with 2 prev albums reaching 3M it doesnt make any sense if they did not expect this


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    And now it seems impossible for Seventeen to break their own FML record purely just because they are not allowed to (even FML also undersctoks and many carats got it after months hence the 1st week is around 4M but now it’s 6M)

    It seems charting well?


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    And that’s actually how seventeen has been charting

    I like Maestro, it has some of the power of the 4th generation.

    But due to the fact that the boy group sells 80% of their albums on the first day of sales and SEVENTEEN has only sold 2.2 million, they will not be able to achieve their success last year with FML. FML has sold almost 6.4 million copies, with 17 Is Right Here they will only do half that.

    All the incidents surrounding HYBE and their sub label also seem to have a negative impact on SEVENTEEN.

    More like this is a repackaged album/special album. Consisting mostly their old title tracks and cost almost 2x higher. Considering the expensive price I’d say them hitting 2M is a big achievement


    Not to mention they can easily get 3M - 4M first day sales if only stores have the stocks. Seems like Hybe/Pledis didn’t stock enough that ppl lining up for hours before they can buy it at 19.00


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    Dang Seventeen has 13 songs on melon top 100 rn. It’s only after stanning rookie TWS that I truly realize Seventeen is such a monster

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    TWS Plot Twist is now the Boygroup debut song with most weeks on MelOn Top 10 history


    #1 TWS - Plot Twist (10 weeks)

    #2 WINNER - Empty (7 weeks)

    #2 Wanna One - Energetic (7 weeks)

    #3 iKON - MY TYPE (6 weeks)


    *Currently Plot Twist has maintained Top 3 on weekly charts for 9 weeks


    Considering they still at top 3 on all charts, it’ll take them a while to exit top 10. Kinda curious how their year end performance gonna be. Pledis better not ruining them


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