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    Peaked at weekly #2 is all i can find, but they also got RAKs but has no CAK/PAK.


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    65,689,385 first week. 63,565,505 second week.


    Celebrity does not come close.

    it all depend on the song really. But overall, blackpink hold the most consistency out of all the girlgroups. D4 is their biggest hit. HYLT is a hit, and LSG is smaller hit. All in all they are really consistent. Out of the girl groups, I would not worry about Blackpink really.


    It helps that most korean seem to like YG/Teddy produced music.

    Seriously, out of the big 4, if I have a choice, then I would rather debute a girl group from YG even though they release less music and stay in the dungeon more than the others.

    What do you mean you disagree? youtube charts shows ALL streams from ALL videos and audios. Majority are from free users so they will never be comparable to melon, genie and so on. The source is yt charts themselves, they have a tab for mv only numbers and all videos numbers. But it's whatever, just putting out my thought there, feel free to disagree and count them lol

    Did I count them in my post? I added If you count youtube music then there Is no comparison.


    Also, we still have no idea how yotube count their music stream for song. They do not stated it. So youtube music is kinda like sportify? It's mixed with pay and free stream.

    Youtube is not a 100% paid streaming platform like the ones on gaon, it's pointless even putting them on the same level, it's not included for a reason. Majority of people don't have yt music premium.


    Also your comparison with hylt is weird considering bp only upload the official mv and 1 dance performance. They dont put out a shitton of versions


    Disagree on the youtube one but the beside the point.


    I done the comparison you quote for gaon and melon not youtube. Is this refer to another post or the post you are quoting?


    As for the putting a lot of videos. I don't know how youtube music filtered their streams. I believe it based on audio and video from the official MV. Where do you get the source base on lot of video?

    Stop insert any other song beside Rollin and D4. Stop arguing without data. Go here and check gaon and melon chart guyso.me. a quick glance at the same time frame Next level is above any other songs u guys mentioned except for HYLT. Because of better longevity Next level gona pass HYLT within a few week on the same time frame. At around the same time frame. Next Level is around 80 to 90k better on Melon.


    All of this does not include youtube music. If I do, then there is no comparison.


    Like I said. There is only D4 and rollin that NL need to surpass.

    These thread strictly mean South korea chart. Nobody in their right mind can claim gg song do better than blackpink internationally. As demonstrated by the responds in this thread, they all know this is for korea comparison.

    I am not sure about overall chart. But in 1 particular chart, youtube music korea, Next level destroyed any gg song in the last 4 years. Hell, I don't have data to go back over 4 years, but I believe it is the biggest girlgroup song of all time by a large margin. I take a look at these songs data from official youtube chart. Next level is at 96 mil in 16 weeks with 10th number 1 and likely to bag more number 1. Dududu is at 61 mil with 4th number 1. HYLT is at 48 mil with 6th number 1. A quick glance at LSG and rollin, they actually doing worst than HYLT, so I did not add them up. Youtube music does not include by gaon by the way.


    maybe My should make a thread about this, and it would not be so controversial, but then, it would not be a hit thread,

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    So all time girlgroup record? If so, the chartmaster only need to put that in the tweet.

    Next Level gona pass Butter Next week on Gaon. They might go back to top 3 daily on Melon tomorrow.


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    They gona pass Butter Next week. Look at gaon chart, 3 to 5 are pretty close. Look like they might stay in the Top 5 for a while when 3 and 4 is dropping faster Next Level.

    oh usually these SOTY thread imply South Korea only.

    Next level will pass Butter on Gaon in 2 to 3 weeks. It has been passed and charting better than Butter on every charts in South Korea including youtube music more than 2 months.


    Here what I posted in an other thread.


    Talking strictly about SOTY, I would give it to Brave Girls Rollin If not for ineligibility. Not only this song have the chart to back it up, but it also captured the public, and celebrities dance to their viral dance. It propelled their career to a new height. Now, that's an impact, and we love to see it.


    Beside Rollin, aespa Next Level is the most deserving song this year. It follows similar pattern, but to a lesser extend. It also have the chart to back it up, but it peaked lower than rollin and the longevity is kinda similar. It also captures the public and celebrities. Many celebrities dance to viral hand gesture. Till today, their public broadcast point in inkigayo is still max.


    One thing that Next Level does way better than Rollin and all song this year is korea youtube music. Consider youtube music might be the second biggest market, I think it relevant to mention this. The stream for this song is unusual high for this chart. I only check a few songs to compare. For similar time frame, Next level streams is double celebrity around 80 mil compare to 40 mil. A quick look, Rollin is doing similar number to celebrity, maybe less. To see how massive Next Level on this chart. They are currently on their way to 10 weeks at number 1. I am not sure they can top Dynamite 18 weeks, but it might get close.


    About butter and celebrity, they have the chart, but this feel like normal release for them. Now, this is not to downplay them. When BTS and IU release a song, the public and the fans will consume them in large numbers. This is a testament to the popularity. For BTS, Dynamite is that song. For IU, there are many earlier in her career, I am not sure, lost count.

    Talking strictly about SOTY, I would give it to Brave Girls Rollin If not for ineligibility. Not only this song have the chart to back it up, but it also captured the public, and celebrities dance to their viral dance. It propelled their career to a new height. Now, that's an impact, and we love to see it.


    Beside Rollin, aespa Next Level is the most deserving song this year. It follows similar pattern, but to a lesser extend. It also have the chart to back it up, but it peaked lower than rollin and the longevity is kinda similar. It also captures the public and celebrities. Many celebrities dance to viral hand gesture. Till today, their public broadcast point in inkigayo is still max.


    One thing that Next Level does way better than Rollin and all song this year is korea youtube music. Consider youtube music might be the second biggest market, I think it relevant to mention this. The stream for this song is unusual high for this chart. I only check a few songs to compare. For similar time frame, Next level streams is double celebrity around 80 mil compare to 40 mil. A quick look, Rollin is doing similar number to celebrity, maybe less. To see how massive Next Level on this chart. They are currently on their way to 10 weeks at number 1. I am not sure they can top Dynamite 18 weeks, but it might get close.


    About butter and celebrity, they have the chart, but this feel like normal release for them. Now, this is not to downplay them. When BTS and IU release a song, the public and the fans will consume them in large numbers. This is a testament to the popularity. For BTS, Dynamite is that song. For IU, there are many earlier in her career, I am not sure, lost count.


    Now, before people jump at me for this opinion, remember, the topic is the who deserving, not who could win.

    lol, I have no idea what the 2 guys talking about. I guess Ramadan related to Muslim and Christmas is christainity. I don't think the girls even know what the joke is about. This happen when next level first came out. I guess somebody dig this up, and certain fandoms not particularly fond about this. The fact that they drag aespa not direct their hate toward the guys making the joke.


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    look like aespa might take youtube music this week and Next week until Stayc come back. I think the way this song perform on youtube music chart is even more remarkable than gaon.

    Compare the market size, their stream is 85 mil vs 85 mil on Melon. Butter is around 85 vs 125 on Melon.

    Celebrity on the same time frame is around 40 mil. I can't find the stream for Celebrity on Melon for the same time frame.

    This mean they are way over perform on youtube music.

    Not sure, maybe the song is not very liked that much?

    even in melon daily chart their song is out of top10


    the views from top countries should be calculated from all their music videos right?

    maybe Queendom is carried by international streams? :/

    I thought they would get carry by the fans whether the song is good or not. It is probably true for the first few days where they gain the most streams. Also, they have not come back for almost 2 years. This further bolstered my prediction for them to top the chart.


    As for the streams, I believe it from both music video and audio. If you have youtube music, there is a fee like sportify premium where you have an app that can play audio and video.

    insane #1 in 8th week

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    Welp, I guess Red velvet could not do it. Look like Brave Girl gona take it next week, I am sure. Look at chi mat ba ram's data, Brave Girl gona drop big the following week where Next Level will return to the top.


    Kinda weird that red velvet only muster 3.21 mil streams from south korea where the majority of their streams come from.

    I gave you the stats and chart, why did you ignore it?

    But no, the poll on a dead forum is the accurate indicator of popularity.

    Twitter is the main platform of k-pop stans, look at it. Can't believe I have to explain things that should be common sense.

    Twitter stats? Please. There is no argument from you. Lol, so this is a dead forum. Now, tell me where are more active kpop forums than this one? Doubt it if you ever find one. If this a dead forum, then you would not be here arguing with people all day in this thread.

    Imagine basing your popularity estimation on a forum that barely has 100 active users online. :pepe-hehe:

    Shows the average intelligence of akpoppies.

    Imagine the ignorance. Many have give you stats and chart, and you chose to ignore it. Describe popularity then? Exactly, the poll in this thread is what describe popularity. Kpop is a niche music in international market. Allkpop forum is one of the biggest English speaking forum in the world. Now, tell me, if a poll on this forum doesn't count then what poll on what forum will count?