Why don’t The Boyz make noise internationally?

Ateez is way more hyped than them internationally. Also no viral songs like Txt, Enhypen, Treasure or Stray Kids. Why do they have little international appeal?

1. They didn't come from Big 3/4

2. They used bright concept in their early years (2017 - 2019) instead of that typical dark / boycrush / bangerz concept that appeal international fans.

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1. They didn't come from Big 3/4

2. They used bright concept in their early years (2017 - 2019) instead of that typical dark / boycrush / bangerz concept that appeal international fans.

ATEEZ is not from big 3/4 either

and ATEEZ had a whole era of bright concept when they were rookie, ironically their first music show win was with this song, bright concept tho

to answer op I don't think they are that apart in popularity in Asia, but ATEEZ has more western appeal because hip hop, good stage presence etc

Their songs aren't that catchy or easily distinguishable, their performances are not outstanding (they lipsync a lot, and most members don't have particularly great stage presence), they have a lot of members (anything above 8-9 is entering risky territory imo, not everyone can be Seventeen or NCT) most of who aren't immediately distinguishable to non-fans who also don't tend to know what exactly they're good at as a group, and of course they're not from a big company. Their main draw is their conventional flower boy visual, but international fans don't care about that a lot.

You can succeed if you're not from a big company, have many members, not so catchy music, not the most charismatic performances, etc., but TBZ have too many of these going on at the same time. But still, they're doing pretty well for their circumstances, much better than some boy groups who fit less of this criteria.

Music is derivative of other acts at least what I've heard. Why listen to a Boyz song when I can just listen to the EXO,NCT127 or NCTdream song it's inspired by. Sunoo is a decent rapper though and has charisma.

Great, another thread that gives chance to users to point out what The Boyz supposedly lack.

I see you all think you know something about them

Just focus on your faves

I thought you were talking about noise music

They sound too much like an sm group without the sm tag

Their music is bland and forgettable.

All of the top 4th gen bgs now come from the big4.Also ateez has hip hop concept and appeal more to the western countries.

Too many members.

Music is not great tbh

Sunwoo's problematic "jokes."

Ah seriously sad people that have to go to anons to say this

Why so salty and why knowing ''so much'' about them suddenly?

I guess your faves and your life doesn't keep you busy enough