who is the next act that will become big internationally?

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    Aespa, IVE and HYBE's and YG's new girl groups have the biggest chance currently.


    Red Velvet and ITZY maybe too if they get the right song and if their company's strategy is targeted specifically at the west instead of Korean success.

    It's always hard to say there is a high chance that it will be be a group from a big company but it can also be a group that come out of nowhere. :|:|:|

    Twice is not big international

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    Aespa, IVE and HYBE's and YG's new girl groups have the biggest chance currently.


    Red Velvet and ITZY maybe too if they get the right song and if their company's strategy is targeted specifically at the west instead of Korean success.

    I’m not sure abt red velvet or aespa, in general quirky weird sm sound is the least successful from big 3 internationally rn. That will hinder them


    And Itzy it’s been 3 years if it hasn’t happened it just won’t happen.


    I’ve I want to see their next comeback, if starship can keep them relevant then I’ll place my bets in them considering the amount of promo they’ve gotten monsta x


    Ygngg, they will be big in sea certainly especially being bp little sisters, but pretty much every group after 2ne1 in yg suffers from the hiatus so much, only bp hasn’t rlly (and even then they could have been bigger) with the amount of competition ygngg face I want to see if they’ll debut with a huge hit and be able to keep coming back with big songs like bp.


    Hybe gg will do good, hybe shows they are good internationally with txt enhypen and obviously bts… but hybe never had gg besides glam and all of a sudden want to debut 3 gg in a year…

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    Twice is not big international

    Twice is big internationally. Not as big as bts or even bp but way ahead of the rest of the groups


    They are huge in Japan and their fame in sea and the ‘west’ (lmao) as increased so much over the last year or so.


    Before anybody asks about bts or bp, can 4th gen groups even match twice?

    Twice are only big internationally for k-pop standards, their numbers are still bad outside of asia. Answering the question I can see TXT making it but nowhere near BTS or BP

    this thread is a poor attempt at creating a narrative that twice is in the same lane as bts and bp

    any groups with gp-friendly name

    sometimes the reason general public refuse to stan a group is because they have nonsensical name even if the lineup is good and the song is top-notch


    twice, blackpink, bts name is memorable enough to attract the interest of gp

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    Twice is big internationally. Not as big as bts or even bp but way ahead of the rest of the groups


    They are huge in Japan and their fame in sea and the ‘west’ (lmao) as increased so much over the last year or so.


    Before anybody asks about bts or bp, can 4th gen groups even match twice?

    The only song of twice that did well international was feels. Twice songs don't do very different from itzy songs.

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    any groups with gp-friendly name

    sometimes the reason general public refuse to stan a group is because they have nonsensical name even if the lineup is good and the song is top-notch


    twice, blackpink, bts name is memorable enough to attract the interest of gp

    twice is a common word used in the dailylife which isn't the most appropriate use of a name.


    bts means behind the scenes and if bts didn't grow to be huge,that word would be associated only with that acronym

    Not even a twice fans but I do not get people’s bitterness and ignorance with twice. Twice may not be as big as BTS and BP but they are certainly ahead of other kpop acts.


    I do not see any other groups being truly global currently. Maybe someone will step up with time or years to come. Even big groups struggle to attract non-fans listen to their music.


    No one has produced a global hit other than aforementioned groups. There seems no big traction in terms of casual listeners (huge following or consumption in terms of global streams, views, etc.) from the currently active acts.

    IVE duh. Internationally they have the biggest song rn sitting at the same table as BP, Twice and BTS songs, and if Starship promo them like they promoted Monsta X in the west they will do really well. But they should establish themselves in SK first.

    G idle have big chances too, their music appeal to western fans and they are cool.

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    IVE duh. Internationally they have the biggest song rn sitting at the same table as BP, Twice and BTS songs, and if Starship promo them like they promoted Monsta X in the west they will do really well. But they should establish themselves in SK first.

    G idle have big chances too, their music appeal to western fans and they are cool.

    Why would you set up ive like that

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    this thread is a poor attempt at creating a narrative that twice is in the same lane as bts and bp

    twice are as far away from bp as bp are from bts (twice are probably closer than these 2), yet bp and bts are always put together, but twice can't? look at the streams/views/.. in 2022, bts is doing 1 BILLION+ streams and views while bp & twice are pretty close for both so this whole "twice shouldn't be put in the same sentence" is such nonsense.


    bp is a lot bigger than twice, but bts is a LOT bigger than bp too?

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    twice are as far away from bp as bp are from bts (twice are probably closer than these 2), yet bp and bts are always put together, but twice can't? look at the streams/views/.. in 2022, bts is doing 1 BILLION+ streams and views while bp & twice are pretty close for both so this whole "twice shouldn't be put in the same sentence" is such nonsense.


    bp is a lot bigger than twice, but bts is a LOT bigger than bp too?

    :yesr:

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    twice are as far away from bp as bp are from bts (twice are probably closer than these 2), yet bp and bts are always put together, but twice can't? look at the streams/views/.. in 2022, bts is doing 1 BILLION+ streams and views while bp & twice are pretty close for both so this whole "twice shouldn't be put in the same sentence" is such nonsense.


    bp is a lot bigger than twice, but bts is a LOT bigger than bp too?

    TWICE needed 3 albums and a tour since oct. 2020 to be competitive with BP (and only on spotify). Their numbers are still heavily dependant in Japan + the rest of asia. The sole reason they charted on the hot100 were remixes, they were non existent on spotify US top 200. People claiming they are breaking into the west are deluding themselves, so yeah it is wrong putting them together with BTS or BP.

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    TWICE needed 3 albums and a tour since oct. 2020 to be competitive with BP (and only on spotify). Their numbers are still heavily dependant in Japan + the rest of asia. The sole reason they charted on the hot100 were remixes, they were non existent on spotify US top 200. People claiming they are breaking into the west are deluding themselves, so yeah it is wrong putting them together with BTS or BP.

    Those remixes barely made a dent in how many streams The Feels got. If Twice shouldn't be included, BP shouldn't either. There is a huge gap between BP and BTS.

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    TWICE needed 3 albums and a tour since oct. 2020 to be competitive with BP (and only on spotify). Their numbers are still heavily dependant in Japan + the rest of asia. The sole reason they charted on the hot100 were remixes, they were non existent on spotify US top 200. People claiming they are breaking into the west are deluding themselves, so yeah it is wrong putting them together with BTS or BP.

    i think many of you don't realise how big the gap between bp and bts is either...


    almost every measurement, except maybe for yt, shows that bp is closer to other kpop groups than to bts (overall spotify numbers, concert audiences, album sales,..) so just bc they are a clear #2 after bts, doesn't mean they are close at all. so if you like to put them together with bts, when bp are NOWHERE near competition for them (except maybe for yt), than putting them along with twice shouldn't be ridiculed..

    i know many share your view, but i'll never understand the different stance.

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    i think many of you don't realise how big the gap between bp and bts is either...


    almost every measurement, except maybe for yt, shows that bp is closer to other kpop groups than to bts (overall spotify numbers, concert audiences, album sales,..) so just bc they are a clear #2 after bts, doesn't mean they are close at all. so if you like to put them together with bts, when bp are NOWHERE near competition for them (except maybe for yt), than putting them along with twice shouldn't be ridiculed..

    i know many share your view, but i'll never understand the different stance.

    BP is closer to bts in spotify than the rest of groups, bp is pulling 400-500M of streams for their title tracks which are the ones determining group popularity since bsides streams are about how bigger the fandom is. Twice is only pulling 200M for a few songs and they are 3rd biggest group internationally. BTS only has dynamite, the rest of songs are closer to bp numbers

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    i think many of you don't realise how big the gap between bp and bts is either...


    almost every measurement, except maybe for yt, shows that bp is closer to other kpop groups than to bts (overall spotify numbers, concert audiences, album sales,..) so just bc they are a clear #2 after bts, doesn't mean they are close at all. so if you like to put them together with bts, when bp are NOWHERE near competition for them (except maybe for yt), than putting them along with twice shouldn't be ridiculed..

    i know many share your view, but i'll never understand the different stance.

    I never claimed BP were on the same lvl as BTS either but they can actually be called big internationally because they do well in all continents

    might be an unpopular answer but i dont think its going to be a kpop group. i feel like its going to be an artist from the krnb or khiphop scene. someone like dean? or jay park? if we're talking strictly kpop, maybe somi if teddy promotes her well?

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    might be an unpopular answer but i dont think its going to be a kpop group. i feel like its going to be an artist from the krnb or khiphop scene. someone like dean? or jay park? if we're talking strictly kpop, maybe somi if teddy promotes her well?

    Technically didnt that already happened with It G Ma? This song wasnt huge like Gangnam Style/HYLT/Dynamite but I think it was one of the most successful korean songs internationally


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    BP is closer to bts in spotify than the rest of groups, bp is pulling 400-500M of streams for their title tracks which are the ones determining group popularity since bsides streams are about how bigger the fandom is. Twice is only pulling 200M for a few songs and they are 3rd biggest group internationally. BTS only has dynamite, the rest of songs are closer to bp numbers

    dynamite is at 1.3 BILLION while butter & bwl are all around 800m... spotify numbers are also more than just tt streams? bts has overall 24 BILLION streams vs 6 billion (bp) vs 4 billion (twice). bts pulls 1 MILLION viewers in online concerts vs 300k (bp) vs 100k (twice). stadium tours vs arena's/domes. best selling album: bts 4m+ vs. bp 1m+ vs twice 800k+ and i can go on and on about the gap between these two groups.


    i don't mean to minimalise what bp has done, bc they have done huge numbers (certainly for gg), but don't act too weirded out when it's pointed out that bp's numbers are closer to other kpop groups than bts'... bts are an anomaly, even outside of kpop. it doesn't diminish any of bp's achievements acknowledging this.

    so yes, twice can be included when talking about international succes.

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    Technically didnt that already happened with It G Ma? This song wasnt huge like Gangnam Style/HYLT/Dynamite but I think it was one of the most successful korean songs internationally


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    That was a one-time thing. Sure, it probably got more people interested in Korean entertainment, but it wasn't consistent like with BTS and BP. Besides, it mostly appealed to a very niche section of hip-hop enthusiasts. Definitely nowhere near the level that we generally think of when we talk about western success.

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    might be an unpopular answer but i dont think its going to be a kpop group. i feel like its going to be an artist from the krnb or khiphop scene. someone like dean? or jay park? if we're talking strictly kpop, maybe somi if teddy promotes her well?

    no, i actually agree.

    was gonna say that it probably won't be a k act at all, but with the way k culture is still booming worldwide,

    wouldn't be surpised if the next big thing is a k rnb act.


    not sure about k hiphop tho... the west tends to not take asian/ non black rappers too serious i think?

    but you never know ofc. just a catchy, good (tiktok) hit is all you probably need

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    dynamite is at 1.3 BILLION while butter & bwl are all around 800m... spotify numbers are also more than just tt streams? bts has overall 24 BILLION streams vs 6 billion (bp) vs 4 billion (twice). bts pulls 1 MILLION viewers in online concerts vs 300k (bp) vs 100k (twice). stadium tours vs arena's/domes. best selling album: bts 4m+ vs. bp 1m+ vs twice 800k+ and i can go on and on about the gap between these two groups.


    i don't mean to minimalise what bp has done, bc they have done huge numbers (certainly for gg), but don't act too weirded out when it's pointed out that bp's numbers are closer to other kpop groups than bts'... bts are an anomaly, even outside of kpop. it doesn't diminish any of bp's achievements acknowledging this.

    so yes, twice can be included when talking about international succes.

    Because it's a lie, bp spotify numbers are closer to bts than the rest of groups when you compare their title tracks. BTS has the biggest fandom, nobody is questioning that, obs BTS will sell more and they will hold bigger concerts. BP has 20s songs lmao don't expect the total streams will match with bts but when you compare the streams per song, bp streams are closer to bts than twice. Popularity isn't only the size of your fandom but also casual fans.


    The album (bp):

    -Max streams: 593M

    -Min streams: 96M


    The feels (twice)

    -Max streams: 165M

    -Min streams: 5M


    So you tell me how twice and bp streams numbers are any close

    It’s the bp down play in anon for me.


    We all know bts is far ahead of other kpop groups and bp, but bp is to ahead of other kpop groups to just not to the extent of bts


    Furthermore we all know they are grouped with bts bc they are 1.biggest gg 2. Actually way ahead of other groups besides bts internationally


    So stop being dense


    Using total sales as if bp doesn’t have only 3 albums, total Spotify streams as if bp doesn’t have only 23 damn songs


    Idk why army act like bp being in the same sentence as bts is a crime. Like they are literally the biggest bg and gg and biggest bg and gg always grouped together since 1st gen. Where was this energy when bts and twice where mentioned together as the biggest bg and gg?!? Bp literally represent kpop gg like at this point y’all just gonna have to deal with it.

    no, it's the BP up-play again by some Blinks to be honest.


    Check it yourself


    BTS and Lee Min-ho top SK government survey of global Korean celebrities second time
    BTS and Lee Min-ho’s stardom spreads far and wide, and another proof of it is the global survey conducted by two top South Korean organizations.
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    South Korea: K-pop popularity worldwide 2021 | Statista
    In a survey conducted in 18 countries in 2021, around 39 percent of respondents stated that the genre K-pop was “very popular” in their country.
    www.statista.com


    "For the K-pop star section, 4,679 respondents took part. Of them, 26.7% favored BTS, while the second rank showed more than half of the gap, with BLACKPINK clocking 10.4% votes."

    You're really comparing a single to an entire album. Tragic.

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    You're really comparing a single to an entire album. Tragic.

    I'm comparing the maxium and minium streams of last bp and twice albums and the result is the numbers aren't close and bp is still miles ahead of any other group internationally except bts. I can do bts if you want too:


    BE (bts):

    -Max streams: 1.2B (dynamite)

    -Title track: 463M

    -Min streams: 34M

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