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They sell so much so....
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That statement is relative, looking at numbers it's a huge stretch
but if you mean the ratio
txt are easy to get into:
great exposure thanks to bighit's marketing and bts (moas who believe the association ended in 2019 are the most naive people ever)
music and concepts designed for the widest possible mass appeal
so at any point they'll have a huge following
however
they lack a factor that keep people permanently attached.
for enhypen, it's the survival show effect: people grew more attached to their faves through the show and feel directly responsible for them so they'll stick to the group more
txt's creative direction backfires here, because as polished it is, there's not much depth to it, so that won't keep people seriously attached
their skills are...ok, but far from outstanding, there's much more impressive in the 4th gen (same applies to enhypen tbh)
and there's no feeling of importance as a fan either (enhypen has because of the survival show); for the aforementioned reasons txt will obviously always stay afloat, not only txt but moas too don't ever have to work too much for achievements
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another thread by spotify flops
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most enhyen stans are armys like txt. But txt debuted when bts were releasing regularly so not many armys thought about unstanning bts and became multis. Many moarmys have unstanned bts since last year because of bts reducing their activites but not that many. Since enhypen's debut bts have reduced their activities. They haven't released a korean song. 3 english 1 japanese 1 collab. So it was easy to unstan bts for armyengenes and only be enhypen stans.
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most enhyen stans are armys like txt. But txt debuted when bts were releasing regularly so not many armys thought about unstanning bts and became multis. Many moarmys have unstanned bts since last year because of bts reducing their activites but not that many. Since enhypen's debut bts have reduced their activities. They haven't released a korean song. 3 english 1 japanese 1 collab. So it was easy to unstan bts for armyengenes and only be enhypen stans.
You know nothing about armys and engenes and it shows,keep living your fantasy tho
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You have nothing to disprove my post and it shows, keep deluding yourself to think enhypen made non kpop fans into kpop fans.
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Anyways their music is good
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I can disapprove your post with ease, I just didn't bother to.
The latest proof is the MAMA votings. Why? Because in the first round, people could vote for top five groups. BTS was leading at 1st, Enhypen was at 3rd place. This means many people could vote for five groups and if you were right, armys (or engenes who also stan enhypen) would vote for enhypen too. In the second round, votes went back to zero and then you could choose only one group. No army (or engene who stans bts) would vote for anyone other than bts. Despite that, enhypen's rank remained the same and they didn't drop out. Meanwhile txt,who used to be right behind enhypen in the first round, fell down with couple of ranks. That shows which one is the group consisting of mainly armys.
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most enhyen stans are armys like txt. But txt debuted when bts were releasing regularly so not many armys thought about unstanning bts and became multis. Many moarmys have unstanned bts since last year because of bts reducing their activites but not that many. Since enhypen's debut bts have reduced their activities. They haven't released a korean song. 3 english 1 japanese 1 collab. So it was easy to unstan bts for armyengenes and only be enhypen stans.
lol this is the must dumb thing i have read today. which fantasy world are you living in? invite me pls
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I can disapprove your post with ease, I just didn't bother to.
The latest proof is the MAMA votings. Why? Because in the first round, people could vote for top five groups. BTS was leading at 1st, Enhypen was at 3rd place. This means many people could vote for five groups and if you were right, armys (or engenes who also stan enhypen) would vote for enhypen too. In the second round, votes went back to zero and then you could choose only one group. No army (or engene who stans bts) would vote for anyone other than bts. Despite that, enhypen's rank remained the same and they didn't drop out. Meanwhile txt,who used to be right behind enhypen in the first round, fell down with couple of ranks. That shows which one is the group consisting of mainly armys.
So you are saying you lack comprehension skills. Ask your brother or sister what is the difference between what you're saying here and what I said in my first post.
But txt debuted when bts were releasing regularly so not many armys thought about unstanning bts and became moarmys. Many moarmys have unstanned bts since last year because of bts reducing their activites but not that many. Since enhypen's debut bts have reduced their activities. So it was easy to unstan bts for armyengenes and only be enhypen stans.
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They don't this thread seems so... out of touch. ARMYs stopped being interested in TXT when they lost their debut "Bighit's new boy group" hype. Most MOAs these days just stan TXT and nobody else or TXT and another boy group or two. The MOAs that do stan BTS usually ult them and rarely interact with other MOAs who don't stan BTS so maybe that's where the confusion is coming from?
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lol this is the must dumb thing i have read today. which fantasy world are you living in? invite me pls
I live in a world where enhypen stans think enhypen is so big that they are converting non k-pop fans into k-pop fans. It is dumb world for which 100% credit goes to engenes. You are in the same world because you are one of those weirdos spreading this fake narrative.
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I don't lack comprehension skills, I am simply saying that you're wrong. Armys wouldn't give up on bts just because of one year hiatus (during said year they still dropped songs and were very active, just there was absense of a physical album). When will you and other kpoppies understand that armys aren't like our general kpop stans who drop groups left and right, that's the reason bts is the most successful korean act.
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Ohhh you're the same op from that one other thread. You got eaten up by people in there so you ran to this thread and began to cry out the same nonsense like a broken record? You're so pressed about enhypen 🤣🤣
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I don't lack comprehension skills, I am simply saying that you're wrong. Armys wouldn't give up on bts just because of one year hiatus (during said year they still dropped songs and were very active, just there was absense of a physical album). When will you and other kpoppies understand that armys aren't like our general kpop stans who drop groups left and right, that's the reason bts is the most successful korean act.
You are very naive if you think this way. This forum is big enough proof for armys moving on from bt to enhypen and txt. Just go and make a thread asking how many of you unstanned bts or started paying more attention to other hybe groups than before in the last year or two. I have been in k-pop for 16 years and armys are just another k-pop fandom. There are many proof of that already. The reason bts is the most successful korean act is because they keep gaining new fans who were not into k-pop at all. Not because of armys. Stop giving armys so much credit.
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You are very naive if you think this way. This forum is big enough proof for armys moving on from bt to enhypen and txt. Just go and make a thread asking how many of you unstanned bts or started paying more attention to other hybe groups than before in the last year or two. I have been in k-pop for 16 years and armys are just another k-pop fandom. There are many proof of that already. The reason bts is the most successful korean act is because they keep gaining new fans who were not into k-pop at all. Not because of armys. Stop giving armys so much credit.
I don't think they are moving away from bts but are rather much more comfortable showing support to hybe groups. They are more casual fans of these groups
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You are very naive if you think this way. This forum is big enough proof for armys moving on from bt to enhypen and txt. Just go and make a thread asking how many of you unstanned bts or started paying more attention to other hybe groups than before in the last year or two. I have been in k-pop for 16 years and armys are just another k-pop fandom. There are many proof of that already. The reason bts is the most successful korean act is because they keep gaining new fans who were not into k-pop at all. Not because of armys. Stop giving armys so much credit.
Allkpop is your proof of your point? Seriously?okay, then I will offer you a contra argument. If you make the same poll on twitter the winning option will be the one where people claim they haven't unstanned bts for other act.
And let me add another thing. If a SMALL PORTION of armys have indeed moved on to the newer groups, your faves + any other non hybe group wouldn't have stood a chance against the hybe groups.
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No I'm not but you guys didn't eat up that user. Stop thinking that way. You guys were eaten up by that user. You all started backing away from your words when that user showed you reality. Go and look again most of your responses are "no no I didn't say or mean that" when you clearly did. I don't care about enhypen but engenes need to be shown reality. Most of you don't post in main section because you know your fake narratives will be laughed at by everyone. You guys talk only in anons because you don't have your faves talents or personality to talk about so you guys have loads of free time to make up these fake narratives so I am just helping you clean up your brainwashed mind.
I stand by my words. I am telling you to do that survey. I think you are so realising what I am saying will be the result of the survey but let's agree to disagree.
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No I'm not but you guys didn't eat up that user. Stop thinking that way. You guys were eaten up by that user. You all started backing away from your words when that user showed you reality. Go and look again most of your responses are "no no I didn't say or mean that" when you clearly did. I don't care about enhypen but engenes need to be shown reality. Most of you don't post in main section because you know your fake narratives will be laughed at by everyone. You guys talk only in anons because you don't have your faves talents or personality to talk about so you guys have loads of free time to make up these fake narratives so I am just helping you clean up your brainwashed mind.
I stand by my words. I am telling you to do that survey. I think you are so realising what I am saying will be the result of the survey but let's agree to disagree.
Nah you're the exact same user and there's no point to hide it, exact same manner of speaking, exact same reactions, it's hilarious
Engenes aren't active in allkpop at all, the only engenes on the site spend most time in anons because that's the only place trolls like you dare to say something against them
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Allkpop is your proof of your point? Seriously?okay, then I will offer you a contra argument. If you make the same poll on twitter the winning option will be the one where people claim they haven't unstanned bts for other act.
And let me add another thing. If a SMALL PORTION of armys have indeed moved on to the newer groups, your faves + any other non hybe group wouldn't have stood a chance against the hybe groups.
If you really think bts haven't lost many fans in the last year or two you are living under the water. Why do you think all kpop boygroups became so big in last 2 years? All of them grew exponentially. ALL.
Which non hybe groups stand a chance against enhypen and txt? Only stray kids who are 4 year old group now. 4 years is alot of time and still they are only as big as txt and enhypen.
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If you really think bts haven't lost many fans in the last year or two you are living under the water. Why do you think all kpop boygroups became so big in last 2 years? All of them grew exponentially. ALL.
Which non hybe groups stand a chance against enhypen and txt? Only stray kids who are 4 year old group now. 4 years is alot of time and still they are only as big as txt and enhypen.
Nah you just want bts to lose relevancy so bad but it's not happening no matter what you keep trying to convince yourself.
Why are you mentioning just boy groups? Aespa,itzy, ive are all non hybe groups and they're competing just fine against enhypen and txt. Also, currently stray kids are the biggest 4th gen boy group so once again, your point is invalid.
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I can disapprove your post with ease, I just didn't bother to.
The latest proof is the MAMA votings. Why? Because in the first round, people could vote for top five groups. BTS was leading at 1st, Enhypen was at 3rd place. This means many people could vote for five groups and if you were right, armys (or engenes who also stan enhypen) would vote for enhypen too. In the second round, votes went back to zero and then you could choose only one group. No army (or engene who stans bts) would vote for anyone other than bts. Despite that, enhypen's rank remained the same and they didn't drop out. Meanwhile txt,who used to be right behind enhypen in the first round, fell down with couple of ranks. That shows which one is the group consisting of mainly armys.
Where can I find the results of the first round and second round for MAMA?
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Mmmm I don't know,if it's not on the MAMA website then maybe you can check the voting accounts for the said groups
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Nah you're the exact same user and there's no point to hide it, exact same manner of speaking, exact same reactions, it's hilarious
Engenes aren't active in allkpop at all, the only engenes on the site spend most time in anons because that's the only place trolls like you dare to say something against them
Engenes are defending anything negative connotation associated with enhypen. That shoulf show you there are enough engenes on allkpop. But they spend most time in anons because there is nothing to praise about their faves except their producers. You guys are getting tired of praising their producers and it shows. There is nothing to talk about the group or members or talent or personality. That's why you guys camp in anons.
Nah you just want bts to lose relevancy so bad but it's not happening no matter what you keep trying to convince yourself.
Why are you mentioning just boy groups? Aespa,itzy, ive are all non hybe groups and they're competing just fine against enhypen and txt. Also, currently stray kids are the biggest 4th gen boy group so once again, your point is invalid.
I don't care about bts just like I don't care about enhypen. Your are new to kpop and it shows when you compare boy groups with girl groups. Both operate in totally distinct manner in kpop. Advance to you newbie : never compare boy groups and girl groups. Apparently you also cannot read. I said skz are one of the top 3 and only group competing with hybe groups. That's because they are already 4 year old group. Invest in tutor rather than kpop.
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I've found the final ones
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They don’t sell albums with 10 versions and still pull those insane sales. I think they are doing fine
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I can disapprove your post with ease, I just didn't bother to.
The latest proof is the MAMA votings. Why? Because in the first round, people could vote for top five groups. BTS was leading at 1st, Enhypen was at 3rd place. This means many people could vote for five groups and if you were right, armys (or engenes who also stan enhypen) would vote for enhypen too. In the second round, votes went back to zero and then you could choose only one group. No army (or engene who stans bts) would vote for anyone other than bts. Despite that, enhypen's rank remained the same and they didn't drop out. Meanwhile txt,who used to be right behind enhypen in the first round, fell down with couple of ranks. That shows which one is the group consisting of mainly armys.
Hmm I don’t hate txt but this is a good point. I want someone to disprove this.
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You are very naive if you think this way. This forum is big enough proof for armys moving on from bt to enhypen and txt. Just go and make a thread asking how many of you unstanned bts or started paying more attention to other hybe groups than before in the last year or two. I have been in k-pop for 16 years and armys are just another k-pop fandom. There are many proof of that already. The reason bts is the most successful korean act is because they keep gaining new fans who were not into k-pop at all. Not because of armys. Stop giving armys so much credit.
I think you are the most naive one. You really based your whole point on a forum when millions of armys exist outside of this bubble. But I’ll humor you.
Please mention how many users you have seen who were once armys who stopped stanning BTS to stan other kpop groups from only this forum. You can mention names and tag them too
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If you really think bts haven't lost many fans in the last year or two you are living under the water. Why do you think all kpop boygroups became so big in last 2 years? All of them grew exponentially. ALL.
Which non hybe groups stand a chance against enhypen and txt? Only stray kids who are 4 year old group now. 4 years is alot of time and still they are only as big as txt and enhypen.
Many fans?
Some of you have some very delusional thoughts that need to change. BTS has one of the best fan retention ratio in kpop history. That’s how they rose to the top. No act who makes fleeting fans will ever reach the top.
I’m not saying BTS don’t lose fans but some of you exaggerate this too much. And you are right that most of these groups are just growing because of the trickling down effect from BTS (paving the way). I’ve noticed most of their stans on twitter always talk about BTS being their first kpop act.
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Engenes are defending anything negative connotation associated with enhypen. That shoulf show you there are enough engenes on allkpop. But they spend most time in anons because there is nothing to praise about their faves except their producers. You guys are getting tired of praising their producers and it shows. There is nothing to talk about the group or members or talent or personality. That's why you guys camp in anons.
I don't care about bts just like I don't care about enhypen. Your are new to kpop and it shows when you compare boy groups with girl groups. Both operate in totally distinct manner in kpop. Advance to you newbie : never compare boy groups and girl groups. Apparently you also cannot read. I said skz are one of the top 3 and only group competing with hybe groups. That's because they are already 4 year old group. Invest in tutor rather than kpop.
If you get on Twitter you'll see all the praises you expect about enhypen. Someone there says "enhypen are amazing vocalists" or "their performance was so great" and such posts gain over 20k likes and engagement. Most engenes on that forum don't make threads and instead praise the group in their guild. And again, here you have a very small representation of engenes. Say everything you said on Twitter and you'd get eaten up with over 5-6k quote retweets.
I've been a kpop fan for ten years so you can keep your nonsense to yourself. Of course girl groups and boy groups don't compete in the same category. I gave you this example to show you that enhypen and txt aren't the only ones groups who grow fast and who have a great success. No matter in the category they compete in, you can't deny that groups like ive, aespa, itzy etc gained such fast results and made such amazing achievements too. Yet I don't see you write the same essays about them.
Your problem isn't with enhypen or txt, you just hate on every group associated to bts because you're insecure and because your faves probably don't even reach half of the success bts has. That's why you let out your bitterness by discrediting bts' fandom and other hybe groups. It's sad
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