How americans vote

Me being the only one here that likes the electoral college

No system is perfect and I understand why it was put in place to begin with.

So I'm okay with it, regardless who wins despite losing the popular vote.

Wait, Americans actually vote? What alternate reality is this in?

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If you wanna see disengaged voters

UCI's record high voter turnout was 2.7% of all students. for a student president that can actually use a whole lotta power.

I take that back, I think the U.S. does about 10x that high in turnout rate. Nevermind then, I forgot some places do worse than the U.S.

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I'm not referring to the electoral college -- I'm referring to how we decide who wins the votes for the electoral college points to be awarded

essentially how we count votes. (electoral college has not much issue)

In the US, most votes are counted using the First Past The Post system; one vote per voter, person that comes out with most votes wins

I'm advocating for Instant Runoff Voting, and because its more friendly to more parties getting involved.

Also protects against the spoiler effect.

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sorry everyone was just talking about so I decided to just chime in on it heh

To your idea, it seems pretty neat. Wouldn't mind doing that to be honest. But it feels that if someone's fave candidate didn't win they'll call any system rigged lmao.

If this system can entice more independent voters to actually vote it would be pretty nice. Otherwise, it's still just another party vs. party battle.

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yea and currently the way its set up, the current system is a negative feedback loop. If a new candidate came out and ran, the party with the closest views to that new candidate would suffer because voters would be split between the two candidates and the adversary would win.

It would require a new third candidate that vows to change the voting system and does not share any views with the current political parties and drawing enough votes away to overtop both incumbent parties.

In short it'll take a flying pig, a talking dog, a cow that jumped over the moon, and a whole bushel of miracles to make it happen.

Gerrymandering will be alleviated with more parties, honestly but I wish they resorted to a mathematical system of division, rather than a political way of division. (heck why not even do popular vote lmao )

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but it's never gonna happen I mean the political parties have no reason to want to change it when it does not benefit them...

it's the way i've disliked every guy in office for the duration of my lifetime- all for diff reasons ofc. some definitely sucked less than others but yeah big oof lol.

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I would say that a fundamental flaw of the american politic is that the votes are just first past the post voting

most votes win, voters only one vote.

(americans do it a lil differnt: qualifier voting rounds sorts out the top two candidates and then they duke it out for majority)

I propose that it should be changed to Instant runoff voting.

You'll rank candidates by ones you want the most to ones you want the least. if you don't want them at all, just don't rank them; your vote won't count for them

The first round of voting, the number one spots of each person's ranking is counted. the lowest is eliminated, and then the ones who voted for the lost canidate will have their second ranking added to the first round, and so on and so forth.

and it goes on until one of the candidates reaches past 50%

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What if there is still only one candidate appears in a ranking vote...and people do this takes up the majority of all voters..?

More than some die hard supporters of certain candidates may do this I guess.

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Too bad this kind of system still retains most of the chronic issues with the old system - people usually vote for the "not that guy" because their favorite candidate probably got eliminated. It still favors the two biggest parties and still won't solve all of the political locking that happens.

agree with you