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Yeah, being respectful tho, it's different for girl groups. It's nearly impossible for a gg to grow in popularity and fandom size without good, known songs.
Boy Groups can put out songs that don't do well on any platform or outside of their fansom. TXT, Ateez, Enhypen, Seventeen(sans Aju Nice), NCT and Stray Kids(San God's Menu) have never had any songs make noise or get a bit of attention and yet all do amazingly well in sales and will do huge tours too.
If a GG puts out a song that can't stay in the Melon top 1000 for a very long time we end up with groups like Gugudan, Everglow, Lovelyz, Elris, etc and they can't even get a fandom 1% the size of bgs.
So I understand why JYPE, YG, SM don't take as many risk with girls groups since hit songs, esp early on in their careers, are almost essential to growing fandoms and thus selling and touring well.
Not gonna participate in the main convo, but I wouldn’t include SVT’s Aju Nice with any of them. Aju Nice is actually a hit, though it might not be as big as other hits, but it appears on charts every single year during summer— not to mention it’s 3.7M ULs. Despite it being a 6 years old song, it is still played on variety shows, such as it becoming Amazing Saturday (a very popular show’s) slogan song. It is also played during sport events, restaurants, malls, survival shows, still danced to and sung by other Kpop groups.
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Not you mentioning gods menu only when nct has kick it, boss and even hot sauce, songs that have much more success and relevancy in Korea and are also known by ifans. If your only metric is Spotify and YouTube then you should have mentioned txt and enhypen songs. They all are equals.
And lovelyz presence on korean charts is much bigger than anything stray kids (or the other 4th gen bgs you mentioned) have done in their career. Even their last song charted higher on melon despite bgs fandoms making funds and donations to help them.
Don't speak about success if you don't know the facts. Lovelyz failed not because of unpopular music but because of a shitty company.
Stray Kids has only around 150m stream on Melon for their whole entire career, while TXT has over 420m. It's the 3rd highest stream among 4th gen groups.. Even The Boyz and AB6ix have much more relevancy in Korea than Stray Kids.
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Not gonna participate in the main convo, but I wouldn’t include SVT’s Aju Nice with any of them. Aju Nice is actually a hit, though it might not be as big as other hits, but it appears on charts every single year during summer— not to mention it’s 3.7M ULs. Despite it being a 6 years old song, it is still played on variety shows, such as it becoming Amazing Saturday (a very popular show’s) slogan song. It is also played during sport events, restaurants, malls, survival shows, still danced to and sung by other Kpop groups.
Stray Kids has only around 150m stream on Melon for their whole entire career, while TXT has over 420m. It's the 3rd highest stream among 4th gen groups.. Even The Boyz and AB6ix have much more relevancy in Korea than Stray Kids.
Exactly, if gods menu is the metric of success the they should have mentioned the songs of all the other boygroups. They tried to sneak stray kids right there with one of seventeen's biggest songs lmao, like we wouldn't notice.
Ah-choo by lovelyz>>> stray kids whole career in Korea
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Exactly, if gods menu is the metric of success the they should have mentioned the songs of all the other boygroups. They tried to sneak stray kids right there with one of seventeen's biggest songs lmao, like we wouldn't notice.
Ah-choo by lovelyz>>> stray kids whole career in Korea
Stray Kids is still under Jay Why Pee but nowehere near at lovelyz's level in Korea that's for sure. Also, It's JYP thing. Too many one-hit wonders. He really thought that one of those one-hit wonders could penetrate American market. He failed miserably. Again and again just like 2pm song.
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