Do you think 4th gen boygroups have no future in both korean and the west?

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They've got a future.

korea -we don't know

aren't ateez, txt and enhyphen doing well in us billboard?

also, skz, txt and enhyphen doing well in japan?

not bad considering most (except itzy) 4g GG are relevant only in korea

skz are already rather big in the West and doing pretty well in Japan and China, and still have tons of potential ...now stays just need to bully JYPE into giving them proper distribution

None of them are releasing their online concert numbers which tells me they probably don't have good enough ticket sales. Or their album sales clearly don't align with their ticket sales hence company is not giving them to not harm the group's reputation.

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None of them are releasing their online concert numbers which tells me they probably don't have good enough ticket sales. Or their album sales clearly don't align with their ticket sales hence company is not giving them to not harm the group's reputation.

Stray Kids' online concert was like last year, few weeks after the end of Back Door's promotions. Their popularity tripled since then, judging their physicals. So, It's not fair to judge them like that. Not sure about others, because I don't follow.

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Stray Kids' online concert was like last year, few weeks after the end of Back Door's promotions. Their popularity tripled since then, judging their physicals. So, It's not fair to judge them like that. Not sure about others, because I don't follow.

They should arrange another online concert if their popularity has increased so much. If they don't have another concert by the end of this year after releasing a full album and a repackage then that means their last concert didn't earn them any profits and company doesn't believe that this one can as well. If they do and they do some good numbers then their company will release a statement to brag about it.

are they relevant in the west? I don't see any 4th gen charting in bb hot 100 or UK chart though. the reach.

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They should arrange another online concert if their popularity has increased so much. If they don't have another concert by the end of this year after releasing a full album and a repackage then that means their last concert didn't earn them any profits and company doesn't believe that this one can as well. If they do and they do some good numbers then their company will release a statement to brag about it.

The repackage isn't even confirmed yet.

Also, their last online concert had a lot of people attending.

But they'll probably hold a concert sometime soon …the members have been lowkey hinting at it.

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They should arrange another online concert if their popularity has increased so much. If they don't have another concert by the end of this year after releasing a full album and a repackage then that means their last concert didn't earn them any profits and company doesn't believe that this one can as well. If they do and they do some good numbers then their company will release a statement to brag about it.

You have to keep in mind that Stray Kids lost half of the year because of their Kingdom's participation. They have a bunch of schedules already planned and released in their Step Out 2021 video which they didn't have the opportunity to keep up with everything yet. Not to mention the schedules they didn't announce in the video, but they are working on and possibly working on: like their japanese comeback for this month where they are in the middle of the promotions and maybe a second comeback that we don't have any news. All of this in less than 3 months until the end of the year.

But to be honest, I kinda doubt they will do another online concert. A thai journalist said they are negotiating to do shows in an area in Thailand during 2022, what leads me to think JYPE is planning a worldwide presential tour for the next year. Also, the members, in the last weeks, can't stop talking about how much they miss touring and how they can't wait. So don't worry, It's likely coming something bigger than online concert soon.

If they don't start getting Korean hits soon - none of them will be able to sustain a post idol career in the entertainment industry. I cant see western shows booking individual idols for anything no matter how large of an international fandom they think they have.

most fans of txt, skz, and ateez are from west tho... the gap of bg and gg is so wide when we are talking about western

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The repackage isn't even confirmed yet.

Also, their last online concert had a lot of people attending.

But they'll probably hold a concert sometime soon …the members have been lowkey hinting at it.

That is my point though. If they had good number of people attending their concert then they would have released official numbers like JYPE did with Twice. But they're not the only 4th gen group to not release numbers so no need to worry. All of them are doing bad numbers for their online concerts not only stray kids.

These offline concerts won't tell anything atleast till these kpop groups can go on full world tours and not just one or two shows here and there. That's why online concert numbers would have been better telling of everyone's position.

At this point i don't even think its bcs of their garbage music bcs Txt has been putting bops and still making no noise in korea... I think their gp isn't interested in bgs anymore. I don't think we'll see another new bg blow up in korea anytime soon unless smnbg does some wonder.

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All of them are doing bad numbers for their online concerts not only stray kids.

skz weren't doing bad though?

It simple their music sucks. I mean look at txt for example despite all that push from hybe they cant garner enough armys to support them in korea so they flop big time. Simply cuz the music is embarassing.

Their only future is selling albums due to better distribution in the west. Besides that they won't be reaching a third of bts' relevance. Korean charting even more doomed