So there will no longer bulk groups purchases?

I do think this is a good thing. Most of times those group purchases were non shipping back, people where literally just throwing money to the window. If they want to spend their money so badly kpop companies should offer a digital option, they will still making money but at least we won't see so many albums being sent to trash can

there are many ways to manipulate chats and sales. But it is always noted that China is an unstable country for kpop. Can't believe SM, YG's mediaplay.

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interesting...

Will they ban Those C-bars? If no, nothing will change lol

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but Chinese fans are buying kpop songs digitally too...

on QQ or on Netease

it was that Chinese bars of one or another Idol wanted to show true support and make sure their fav earn money from physical album sales, this is why they were ordering big shipments, and not all were later sent to trash can like you said...

those are rather done by individual people who for example order 200-300 copies because they want photocards, and later on they don't need those 199 or 299 copies of album so they just put it in a waste container.

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They do this because they want awards and music shows. I always find Koreans obsession with titles and prizes pretty pathetic, but that's how their society is, they revolve around not being the best you can be, but rather being bigger than others. In Korea is a bigger prize to sell 200k and more than anyone else than sell 2 million and being only the top 5. Of course this culture is extended to idols, that's why they cry and are look down when they lose awards and no fan want to see their faves suffering

Problem is Korean awards don't count foreign digitals, neither digital album sales. Bulk buying digital is far more healthy than bulk buying physical as it, as least don't produce huge amounts of wasted paper and plastic. Right now armys are bulk buying digitals in USA and it's working just fine because USA charts recognize digital sales

I don't know why Koreans are so backwards on their charts methodology, we all know those awards were created only for the sake of robbing fans money and try to insert some money in a dying industry (Korean music market is extremely irrelevant outside kpop). If the purpose was solely making fans open their wallets it's time to recognize iFans money and include us on their criteria, right now iFans need to make a lot of workarounds to help manipulating domestic success, including buying albums they sometimes will never touch

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well listen but those wins are also meaningful for groups... for example if they ain't a group which has like 20-30 wins, and just 1-2 or maybe even none, then even receiving and music tv show award per comeback is a proof for girls/boys that their hard work pays off, and that people like and enjoy their song, and voted for them.

Ok, but I find this concerning. It's just not a healthy culture of celebration, it's a toxic culture of competition and overcoming competitors. You don't give awards because groups break their personal records, you award them because they beat someone else based in some random criteria

But well regardless the ethical discussion there IS means to keep awards going on without resorting in massive useless albums purchases. I love physical albums, and sometimes I buy 2 or 3 versions for collection purposes, but buying a hundred copies and giving away the other copies are something else entirely. Companies themselves loses money

Look what Bighit did for BTS, instead of releasing 4 versions and making armys buying all them they released only one package with the whole thing and sold it at premium price. It was less expensive for fans, for the company and was also more ecologically ethical.

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They do this because they want awards and music shows. I always find Koreans obsession with titles and prizes pretty pathetic, but that's how their society is, they revolve around not being the best you can be, but rather being bigger than others. In Korea is a bigger prize to sell 200k and more than anyone else than sell 2 million and being only the top 5. Of course this culture is extended to idols, that's why they cry and are look down when they lose awards and no fan want to see their faves suffering

Problem is Korean awards don't count foreign digitals, neither digital album sales. Bulk buying digital is far more healthy than bulk buying physical as it, as least don't produce huge amounts of wasted paper and plastic. Right now armys are bulk buying digitals in USA and it's working just fine because USA charts recognize digital sales

I don't know why Koreans are so backwards on their charts methodology, we all know those awards were created only for the sake of robbing fans money and try to insert some money in a dying industry (Korean music market is extremely irrelevant outside kpop). If the purpose was solely making fans open their wallets it's time to recognize iFans money and include us on their criteria, right now iFans need to make a lot of workarounds to help manipulating domestic success, including buying albums they sometimes will never touch

Armys are not bulk buying digitals. You cant buy more than 4 copies of a version. Its not the same as bulk buying in China, where apparently someone bought 320k digital albums in one transaction on QQ Music or the fanbases buying tens or hundreds of thousands of copies and polluting the environment with them.