why people have more expectations for GG than BG

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Another thing to note is that the competition currently more fierce within girl groups

It's a bit harder to compare top BG charting now

Everyone is expecting newer BG to "flop" on Korean charts since we have seen for some time that they don't appear on there often or for too long

There is a greater emphasis on physical sales

For newer GG (aespa, g-idle, itzy), the situation is a little less predictable

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Yep. With BGs, it seems that all the love that the GP might have for BGs has been laser focused on BTS and BTS only, they've swallowed up all the demand for the BG sound.

With GGs, even with BP's dominance recently, we still have songs from OMG, MMM, Gidle, and now Brave Girls doing really well. And the newer GGs have done miles better than their BG counterparts, Izone, Aespa, Itzy all have shown an ability to make an impact on the charts.

Say it louder with me:

For me, I expect more out of GGs because BGs, at least the major ones usually go outside the box a la BTS, NCT and EXO

whereas GGs, for the most part, kind of stay in this safe zone, if you will, although they occasionally tap dance outside the line here and there.

The only two GGs that I've ever felt took the concept of a GG farther were Girls Generation, F(X) and Wonder Girls with Reboot.

Outside of that, with most GGs, what you see is what you get. Again, that's just my opinion.

I feel that a LOT of GGs have so much potential for growth but they're either hampered by a weak vision because of their record label or they get stuck with a "mature concept" in the later stages of their career.

Nah bg who sell well but don’t chart well is considered a flop too

Please stop throwing around words like misogyny so casually.

BGs and GGs are judged relative to their performance in recent years, and because BGs digitals have crashed it is no longer a metric that is used to judge boygroups and the focus is more on physicals.

Meanwhile GGs are still doing decently on charts so for a GG to be considered successful they have to chart well. On the other-hand GGs are also held to a different standard when it comes to sales. if a GG sells 150k that's really good but if a BG does the same that's just expected of them.

And if a group proves that they can do well in a metric where the rest of the field can't they are still held to that standard by themselves. When ON under-performed there were many people saying BTS flopped and that they were over.

And now that BP can sell 1m+ albums which is beyond what any GG can pull, if their next comeback sells 900k they will still be called flops because now BP are held to their own unique standard.

Maybe for their future longevity.

I expect every artist, girl group/boygroup/soloist/non idols/non korean celebrities to have a considerable amount of music consumption to be called successful. Getting into the nuances now, an idol moves in a certain, has certain types of fans and therefore a certain type of music consumption. For a girl group, I expect good digitals and decent amount of sales meanwhile for boy groups I expect high physicals and decent digitals. Having one factor totally absent is not it. You have to have some chart presence if you have high physical consumption. At least it should show that there are some people who are listening to you.

people simply use the word 'flop'

Twice charting badly is underperforming and decline, but not flopping.

BGs sell well but dont chart at all, is not flopping either.

You dont chart well and dont sell well, you're flopping