Obviously H2H! thats the only logical answer 
Consistent on charts and better physicals and streams 
I don’t keep up with kick flip so I’m unsure if they’ve made progress!
KiiiKiii has been underwhelming! BTG and their latest comeback has made no noise! Would have thought they could enter top 100 at least with promotions
Obviously H2H! thats the only logical answer
I don’t keep up with kick flip so I’m unsure if they’ve made progress!
KiiiKiii has been underwhelming! BTG and their latest comeback has made no noise! Would have thought they could enter top 100 at least with promotions
I think
Debut era Kiiikiii had the advantage
But H2H seems to be on the winning edge showing improvement with their cb while kiiikiii seems to have lost some interest
As for Kickflip it seems that in term of sales they are doing well i think they are around 400-500K
But digitally they doesn't seem to do as well than their other male counterpart like BND,riize or TWS and were unable to chart in the top 100
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Debut era Kiiikiii had the advantage
But H2H seems to be on the winning edge showing improvement with their cb while kiiikiii seems to have lost some interest
As for Kickflip it seems that in term of sales they are doing well i think they are around 400-500K
But digitally they doesn't seem to do as well than their other male counterpart like BND,riize or TWS and were unable to chart in the top 100
Debut is rarely a good indication though of how groups progress imo 
Groups like Bp and NJz are exceptions.
Also KiiiKiii’s debut was incredibly messy! SSE said IDM was a prerelease and decided to post it a month before streaming services so people were already used to it when it released ( risky marketing honestly)
Imo hence why it done better right away! They also decided to post it the same day of all days as H2H’s debut ( which is why a lot of Hachus initially disliked KiiiKiii/SSE) It was obviously to steal their attention
Once their initial TT was released BTG/ GW both flopped really bad despite promotions for both (without using the IDM marketing) so Startship changed the TT to IDM
Personally this is why I wasn’t sold on KiiiKiii being rookie monsters yet, their initial TT flopped. Now with this comeback and no marketing to draw off other groups this comeback isn’t doing well either
It was gamble SSE took initially but I think they honestly made the wrong choice. Now enters “KiiiKiii peaked at debut arguments!”
Compare that to H2H who had an average successful debut with mediocre response but have a lower hurdle to jump from comeback to comeback
I’ve always thought a hit at debut was risky and I personally dislike risks . It goes either way
Generation is screwed
Generation is screwed
5th Gen is K-pop's flop gen.
Probably Day6 they are the biggest 5th gen rookies
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