Who's more talented? SNSD or BLACKPINK?
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I think I was obvious. Real rappers write their own music or at least their verses, and no one in BP ever done that till they left YG. Sorry, they have like 2 credits. What is that you don't understand? SNSD has 6 members who's a "rapper".
Hyo, Yuri, Tiffany, Sooyoung, Sunny and Yoona.
Didn't ask you to do that, but if you wanna say SNSD doesn't have a rapper, we can say the same about Blackpink, because as I said, REAL Rappers writes their own music. Just because SNSD is not a Hip Hop focused group, doesn't mean they don't have a rapper.
Hyo is not the best female rapper at all, but she's easily better than anyone in BP.
You can say whatever you want about BP the same way I said about SNSD, have a nice day!
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Which part is a blatant lie? Everyone who knows something about Hip Hop knows that REAL rappers write their stuff.
And I never said, SNSD rappers are the best, but they have 6 members assigned for that position.
Girls' GenerationGirls' Generation (Hangul: 소녀시대; Kanji: 少女時代; also known as SNSD or SoShi) is an eight-member girl group under SM Entertainment. Originally as nine, they…kpop.fandom.comYou can literally use KOMCA or even just SNSD Wikia and see their credits. They're not only wrote songs, but also produced and composed some of them. So, where's the lie, exactly?
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Do whatever you want

That's what I always do, hon.😂
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Which part is a blatant lie? Everyone who knows something about Hip Hop knows that REAL rappers write their stuff.
And I never said, SNSD rappers are the best, but they have 6 members assigned for that position.
https://kpop.fandom.com/wiki/Girls%27_Generation
You can literally use KOMCA or even just SNSD Wikia and see their credits. They're not only wrote songs, but also produced and composed some of them. So, where's the lie, exactly?
They write and compose their own songs (rarely)
Not their own raps and that has nothing to do with rapping
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They write and compose their own songs (rarely)
Not their own raps and that has nothing to do with rapping
They wrote the whole song, ergo the rap parts as well.
If we really want to be fair, neither of these groups has a REAL Rapper. SNSD members are not doing any Hip Hop music, not even Hyo anymore. She's more about Dance and Pop.
And let's be honest, JenLisa are not really Hip Hop soloists either. Lisa, I can understand, she's not good, but Jennie is more surprising, because she has the skills, but I don't think she has a real rap song since she left YG, she only has collabs and all of those people outshined her.
So, on paper, if we only look at the skills, Jennie is the only one who we can talk about alongside with Hyo, but neither of them are close to actual rappers like: Moonbyul, Soyeon, Dami (Dreamcatcher), Lee Youngji or LE (EXID).
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They wrote the whole song, ergo the rap parts as well.
If we really want to be fair, neither of these groups has a REAL Rapper. SNSD members are not doing any Hip Hop music, not even Hyo anymore. She's more about Dance and Pop.
And let's be honest, JenLisa are not really Hip Hop soloists either. Lisa, I can understand, she's not good, but Jennie is more surprising, because she has the skills, but I don't think she has a real rap song since she left YG, she only has collabs and all of those people outshined her.
So, on paper, if we only look at the skills, Jennie is the only one who we can talk about alongside with Hyo, but neither of them are close to actual rappers like: Moonbyul, Soyeon, Dami (Dreamcatcher), Lee Youngji or LE (EXID).

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Vocals - SNSD and there's no competition whatsoever.
Dancing - Hyoyeon always stands out the most in her group, I don't know about Lisa. Hyoyeon's popping is next level, she made Kai and Lay look so junior one time. Lisa has never done that before. I guess it comes down to their style of dancing. Meanwhile, Yuri, Sooyoung and Yoona stand out more than the 3 remaining BP members in their groups.
Rap - BP is a hiphop group while Snsd is a vocals group. Hyoyeon sings better than Lisa. And, Tiffany alone can rap as well as Jennie and Lisa but sadly, she's a main vocalist. How do you compare this?
SNSD easily wins overall because they have more members and there's nothing that BP does skillwise that Snsd can't do and SNSD did a lot more while active than BP ever did.
Hyoyeon being a better singer than Rose is a bit wild even for me

You cracked me up with this

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And about dancing, Hyoyeon has cleaner, sharper and has concise moves compared to Lisa. Lisa kinda dances like Yoona in that Lisa is more skilled but both have larger moves compared to dancers like Hyoyeon, Seulgi and SinB. I actually find Yoona sharper than Lisa and Lisa has better control and more versatility.
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What happened to this forum while I was on my flight to LA?

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What happened to this forum while I was on my flight to LA?

I'm not sure what you mean. The forum is filled with objective people. This thread is just further proof.
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yes more granny generation threads the better

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Tiffany raps as well as Jenlisa....

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I voted Blackpink, because Soshi have Taeyeon and that’s it in terms of outstanding talent, (and Rosé has a better voice imo)
But the 2 groups were assembled under different philosophies. Blackpink was designed to be 4 members that excel, the “talent of 2NE1 with the visuals of fink.l” was how YG pitched them. Soshi on the other hand were meant to be group viewed first and foremost as a team and not individuals. A 9 member girl group was unheard of in Korea at the time, and their big formation dances were legendary. As a result, a lot of the members are just their to “fill up the numbers” but that’s okay.
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There was too much wrong in this.
Sunny as a musical actress cleared all of BP with vocal. And she is the weakest among vocal line, like 5th best in OT9. No matter how much "fill up the numbers", if 5/9 of one group are better singers than 4/4 of other group then clearly one is talented than other.
Mind you, this is a fancam from a musical. So no backtrack, autotune like usual kpop performances.
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Soshi also meant to be viewed as individuals than as a team. You must've forget all of their individual activities earlier years.
Other group waited years for this but they already had own subunit, drama, sitcom, radio DJ, solo OSTs within just 1 year. They even took many group hiatuses to focus on individuals or subunits, for example 3/4 of year 2008, entire of 2012, most of 2013.
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