The hate train NJZ have received strictly from international K-Pop netizens is the worst ever

Yeah, I said it. I thought about phrasing the title as "the worst I've ever seen", but honestly? That qualifier isn't needed. It is objectively the worst hate train ever conducted by international K-Pop fans.

It's time to have a honest dialogue about it, outside of Megathreads, and I'm not looking to turn this into the Suffering Olympics, so I'll talk strictly about NJZ.

It has been almost a full year since HYBE announced their audit of MHJ, followed by MHJ's press conference.

When I say there has not been a single day without the most ruthless and vile comments being said about NJZ, even before they took a public stance, it's not hyperbole. The girls are treated with more hostility and hatred than actual criminals. Also not hyperbole. Recently I saw people comparing them to SEUNGRI. SEUNG****INGRI. And those comments were upvoted on reddit by the dozens.

And no, this isn't a reddit only thing. Go look at the first few editions of the ADOR/HYBE Megathreads. Go look at ANY NJZ article on the main site. Go look on X/twitter.

You can have a little bit of everything:

death threats, weaponization of pedophilia, misogyny. In fact, why don't I just SHOW you:

We'll start light

There are quite literally hundreds if not thousands of comments just like this. And it just gets worse and worse. In fact, the ones above are the tame ones.

Oh, a random AKP article about NJZ going to Jennie's concert? Surely that couldn't invite any malicious comm--

If this person posted on the forums, wholesome YamaChan might have to get shelved and risk ending up like Tattynumbers.

Danielle can't even do a live stream where she opens up to viewers about her trainee experience without a bunch of reactions like this:

Again, this is MILD compared to what I've seen over the past year. I'm kind of crazy so I can withstand it all without any real impact, but when I look at everything in its totality, I know for a fact no group has been subjected to this sheer volume of hatred by ifans ever.

There have been comparable PEAKS for sure and events others have suffered through, but it's just the daily constant unchecked and unfiltered hate NJZ gets that astounds me.

Equally astounding is when people try to act like this malicious behavior doesn't exist or try to persecute Bunnies who are showing signs of distress or angst from the vicious rhetoric drowning out any positive comments towards NJZ outside of the discord server, NJZ subreddit and HERE. MAYBE PC from time to time.

The hate has reached deranged levels as well. I've seen people:

• literally create their own "Netizen Article" to make it appear as if the Korean public had turned on NJZ.
• create a fake general chat filled with "Bunnies" making obscene comments about other girl groups just to set up NJZ fans.
• platform and retweet/mass like known sexist incel losers from one of the most degenerate online communities in Korea (they have since been banned from X and sued) to spread vile rumors and hate.
• edit photos of NJZ members at a Gigi Hadid party, removing all the women, so they can create a disgusting narrative about NJZ members that I don't think I need to fully detail for you to get the picture.

I could go on. See for yourself. And you have been warned. These comment are awful. I'll even put them in a spoiler.

Every single day. And now I can say, for as long as I've been a K-Pop fan, I have never seen a group get this level of sustained hatred from ifans for so long (A YEAR). The funny thing is that it made the fandom even bigger, stronger and mentally tougher. But I think SOMEONE needs to put a spotlight on this trashy behavior from a bunch of trashy people.

I don't ask for pity or sympathy, but I will demand acknowledgement of the sheer magnitude of the unacceptable levels of vitriol the girls receive on a daily basis.

Quote from selfmate

no one deserves hate for whatever reason however humans are human and social media has always been an echo chamber

Even if I was 100% Team HYBE in some strange parallel universe, I would never in a million years even consider typing up the putrid diatribes and almost maniacal tirades I've seen people spread all over almost every popular platform for discussing K-Pop, just because they dislike how NJZ is leaving and to whom they're loyal to.

It's legitimately disgusting. I've said it before, and I especially mean it now, but I better not ever see ifans complaining about the toxicity of Knetizens and how they bully their celebs, when the behavior they've shown towards NJZ has been even worse.

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I think you are misunderstanding why she is gone for now, it is not due to her disagreeing with someone spreading hate. It is due to her doing it herself and going out of her way to enter threads to spread nothing but anger and hostility. Instead of just going about her day ignoring threads about that artist and trying to justify it the same way the very people you critiqued in this post, are doing to New Jeans unfortunately.

So no it would not be the same at all. There is a big difference in between arguing against hate and spreading it. I do empathize with her feeling better by doing so due to her own life experiences but that does not justify it. Attacking 2 different groups relentlessly over and over in threads that have not a single thing to do with the lawsuit and refusing to seek any other path is why she has a 1 mo ban.

None of the groups under that label or it's subsidiaries deserve the hate they are getting currently. Nor does the group who is trying their best to escape it, New Jeans.

Oh I figured that was exactly why she was banned. I only referenced her in the context of I would also end up banned, if that Lejan user ever started posting here. I would not restrain myself in any way.

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On a unrelated note

You remember how those Seungri albums had been rotting in my storage since the disgusting stuff came out publicly.... wellllllllllllllllllllll someone in Australia bought them I had listed them for shits and giggles as I refused to trash them due to the effect excess garbage has on the environment. AND SOMEONE ACTUALLY WANTED THEM 6 YEARS LATER

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yes I agree with that 100% my friend however I'm not them and they aren't here to explain their actions

you have every right to call out specific people for their specific behaviours if they cross a line however try not to lump all ifans in the same boat (same as Knetz)

a person should be responsible for his or her actions and not the actions of their race, gender, fandom or any other associating feature

I don't believe I suggested that all ifans are responsible for all the hate. I'm specifically calling out all the hate I've seen exclusively from ifans, and how it's the worst of the worst hate train K-Pop has ever seen.

I didn't even mention all the blatant racism that arose over the Hanni visa situation.

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I think kpop fans are becoming unhinged and aren't thinking before they hit send. I am not going to compare toxicity but the stuff people are saying about NJZ is uncalled for.

I am not sure if it's because they're the members that speak English, but I think comments towards Danielle and Hanni are unhinged. I have no clue why people are painting those 2 as evil masterminds. Any action those 2 do is met with people saying bad things about them. You can just go to a njz reddit thread, and you will see the usual comments that Hanni is an evil master manipulator. She shouldn't be under a microscope, and it's most likely must have been a draining experience being a foreign idol and worry about your visa.

It's sad to see people just turn on them and the hatred for the CEOs going towards the idols. I think people are miserable for wanting the girls to fail. It's simple just ignore their content if it makes you angry to post nasty things about them. I don't want any idol to fail unless they do something truly evil. If not, then I just simply ignore them because there's so much kpop content that releases, and no point spending energy about a group/soloist I don't care about.

I hope the court case can wrap up, so everybody can move on. I am rooting for the groups and I hope all succeed because all of the groups are talented and doesn't deserve the hate

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Becoming? No, it's past tense now. They have already turned completely unhinged. I perused Reddit and found multiple redundant hate threads with the same recycled "takes".

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Willing to support liars and bullies is certainly an opinion to have.

NJZ have shown that they are truly awful. They are undeserving of any respect as this whole thing has unraveled.

When it's these terminally online losers who are awful and undeserving of respect. I'm not kidding when I say NJZ are talked about like they're war criminals, even moreso than actual criminals. Some comments even demand they go to PRISON.