Do you prefer kpop during the woke culture or corporate culture era

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"Woke" does NOT mean what you think it does, girly.

Why do you create threads YOU don't even answer to?????

My answer is ~ I don't prefer either because the results are devastating for the artists.

Kpop fans are still just as "woke" as ever, and your question makes absolutely no sense, but I expect nothing less from you.

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Woke? All I know is that I like “Woke Up in Tokyo” era.

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I'll see your Woke Up in Tokyo and raise you a Woke Up

Couldn't care less. I want great music!

Also, what I want is people stop using the word "WOKE", because most of them don't even know what it means.

Irrelevant.

Agencies will get idols play up whatever is the popular narrative of the target market. When Woke was hot, BLM etc., they played to that. Now they wont.

As to folks 'grudging' about the definition of 'woke', aren't you clued in that "words" like fashion also morph constantly these days in cultural context. It is futile to preach that some XYZ did not mean it that way when they first coined it.

Then they should not have used a generic term like "woke" but something unique and published an authoritative definition.

If not, then words too can be pulled back and forth in the narrative conflicts.

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you didnt find it amazing when female idols were waving the pride flag at concerts?

No.

I am skeptical of all activism, particularly celebrity activism, when the activism is tied to boosting their image in target demographics.

And in the case of idols, most have very little agency, each of their moves are strategized by their company. So I don't put much value on their actions.

It takes some degree of stature, fame before idols have the independence to influence their own careers, never mind standing up for some cause.

For example, the ongoing political issue in S. Korea is far more relevant to idols, as are things like Deepfakes etc.,

How many idols do you see taking stand in such issues which are far more relevant to them as individuals than LGBTQ or BLM? (Per normal distribution very few idols would be homosexual or Black etc.)

Only a few idols with either stature like IU, Yuri or little to lose or unique situation like Jeanz took a stance in the impeachment protests.

Otherwise agencies/they won't risk upsetting any part of the Korean population.

So when the support Woke stuff, it is a play largely to the Western and younger markets.

And now that the tide is changing in West, you will see very little of that either by Kpop idols.

Youre clearly asleep baby

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As to folks 'grudging' about the definition of 'woke', aren't you clued in that "words" like fashion also morph constantly these days in cultural context. It is futile to preach that some XYZ did not mean it that way when they first coined it.

Then they should not have used a generic term like "woke" but something unique and published an authoritative definition.

If not, then words too can be pulled back and forth in the narrative conflicts.