Do you think it is normal for western award shows to make separate categories for kpop artists ?

I assume it's because 99% of groups except maybe BP and BTS would have no chance against western artists, but maybe I'm wrong.

Because they're KPOP artists.

So to prevent confusing anyone, they must have separate categories.

Think of the reverse -- Do you want to see Western artists win in KPOP categories? That would be awkward too, right?

Yes, it's normal, I think it's done on purpose to protect the main nominations from artificial K-pop streaming. By the way, this is the very window to the West for K-pop that some people like to be proud of.

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I assume it's because 99% of groups except maybe BP and BTS would have no chance against western artists, but maybe I'm wrong.

I think so too. They can't ignore kpop as it's a prominent subculture but not many acts do well enough to win against the biggest western idols. It's another topic that award shows tend to snub artists and kpop artists here and there, but all in all, not many kpop acts chart well enough to be nominated in the usual categories.

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Yes, it's normal, I think it's done on purpose to protect the main nominations from artificial K-pop streaming. By the way, this is the very window to the West for K-pop that some people like to be proud of.

not only the inflated streaming, but also the inflated album sales.

Kpop is not mainstream enough to compete with western artists but they bring viewing numbers and online engagement for the award shows. This is the best compromise.

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There have been many Awards established for kpop artists I know but it's my first time seeing the best kpop album award, has any other award show done this? It's so weird, I wonder why they not include kpop artists with western artist lists

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If Kpop artists didn't have their own categories on these shows they would never win anything. Pick your battles.

No K-pop group except for BP and BTS could compete with any Western act which is why it's obvious why they have their own category.

I think it's weird to be honest.

Did the Western Awards shows ever have Best Brit-pop categories when there were the various Brit-pop waves?

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I think it's weird to be honest.

Did the Western Awards shows ever have Best Brit-pop categories when there were the various Brit-pop waves?

Which western award shows? Do we know how many awards "Brit-pop" won in Bulgaria? Or Luxembourg?

British artists obtain mainstream popularity in America because they speak the same language. Kpop artists do not.

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There have been many Awards established for kpop artists I know but it's my first time seeing the best kpop album award, has any other award show done this? It's so weird, I wonder why they not include kpop artists with western artist lists

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k-pop is a special genre, not just a music. There is nothing wrong to make a separate category for it

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British artists obtain mainstream popularity in America because they speak the same language. Kpop artists do not.

And for the ever growing number of kpop releases that are in English?

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k-pop is a special genre, not just a music. There is nothing wrong to make a separate category for it

Which then starts bringing the whole "what is kpop" thing back. Is it entirely fair and ok to make an awards category for one countries music, or is it a genre that will allow say an Indonesian "Kpop Group" to be entered?

Is it fairer to have a more catch-all "International Artist" (like the Oscars do for film). Can kpop stand then against the LatAm giants? "Asian Artist" award?

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And for the ever growing number of kpop releases that are in English?

They've had some success on Billboard, but they're still Kpop, and in most cases they're not winning anything unless you categorize them as such. These awards are meant to placate a niche fandom who would be complaining otherwise (although Kpop fans will find a reason to complain regardless.)

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They've had some success on Billboard, but they're still Kpop, and in most cases they're not winning anything unless you categorize them as such. These awards are meant to placate a niche fandom who would be complaining otherwise.

So why would one country get a whole awards category for them?

Is it not an admission that, as much as we all enjoy Kpop, it's just not that good a genre of music if it can't stand on its own?

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So why would one country get a whole awards category for them?

Is it not an admission that, as much as we all enjoy Kpop, it's just not that good a genre of music if it can't stand on its own?

Because one country is producing a minor "invasion" of musical output, creating its own sub-genre in the process. It's not that different from latin music categories and the like, just more condensed. You could argue that it's silly, but that wouldn't exactly be doing Kpop any favors either.

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Because one country is producing a minor "invasion" of musical output, creating its own sub-genre in the process. It's not that different from latin music categories and the like, just more condensed. You could argue that it's silly, but that wouldn't exactly be doing Kpop any favors either.

So we circle back to asking if ONLY Korean groups can be nominated for best K-pop?

Can XG be nominated? Could a hypothetical all Filipino K-pop group that has the trappings, the sounds and the promotional style of K-pop be considered? Why is it fair to only ringfence one nation if they are going for awards on international stage?

Or, again...

Is it fairer to have a more catch-all "International Artist" (like the Oscars do for film). Can kpop stand then against the LatAm giants? Or maybe an "Asian Artist" award that would also encompass Jpop, Cpop and other Asian nations?