Fifty-Fifty really have become a huge example for the industry.

This also means Fifty-Fifty re-debut coming sooner than expected.

My question is, how could they have been lied to so much? Maybe its age, because when i was younger, i was gullible. And couldn't imagine what i'd believe when were talking huge sums of money and fame.

But from the beginning, everyone saw they have zero case and it was just pure manipulation and ignorance thinking otherwise.

Idols have committed suicide with way more going for them in this industry and i feel sorry they will have to live with the idea they made the wrong choice. I think they were Tik Tok one hit wondering anyways, so i don't think they will lose out on too much. But all the emotional and life stress, for a group that probably wasn't gonna make it anyways is crazy.

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Fifty-Fifty really have become a huge example for the industry.

This also means Fifty-Fifty re-debut coming sooner than expected.

The comeback is already confirmed for September and before that they'll release a pre-release single.

This is a "problem" I have brought up before when other trademark conflicts have been on the topics. Like T-ara and some other groups. People and fans often say the right to the group name/trade mark always should belong to the members, but I often arguee it make more sence to say it belongs to the company the greated the group. And I have brought up the potential problem with a group spliting up in to groups, with some members in one group and they other members in the others group, who have the right to the name?

I think best solution is to say as long as some of the members of a group are still with the company the company have the right to use the name, if all members have left the company the former members should only be allowed to use the old name but they should be foreced to pay some license fee to the old company based on their revenue. I think it's fair the company that build up a group also should have some rights to the trademark, but they should also not be able to block the members from leave for an other company as long as they get a fair compensation.

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This is a "problem" I have brought up before when other trademark conflicts have been on the topics. Like T-ara and some other groups. People and fans often say the right to the group name/trade mark always should belong to the members, but I often arguee it make more sence to say it belongs to the company the greated the group. And I have brought up the potential problem with a group spliting up in to groups, with some members in one group and they other members in the others group, who have the right to the name?

I think best solution is to say as long as some of the members of a group are still with the company the company have the right to use the name, if all members have left the company the former members should only be allowed to use the old name but they should be foreced to pay some license fee to the old company based on their revenue. I think it's fair the company that build up a group also should have some rights to the trademark, but they should also not be able to block the members from leave for an other company as long as they get a fair compensation.

Nonsense. A company shouldn't profit from a group's work after leaving said company. If they wanted to continue making money from that group, they should've tried harder to keep them signed. And what would you do in a case where most of the group wants to leave and continue together elsewhere, while the company manges to keep one or two members hostage? It strikes me as ridiculous to prevent a majority of the group from using their name & song catalogue just because the company happens to maintain a remnant.

It was already decided in T-ara's case that the company couldn't prevent them from using their name & songs going forward.

so I guess that means if the other 3 wanted and keena somehow joined?, they could file a copyright claim against attrakt for the use of fifty fifty, in which case they’d have to rebrand the reboot version of the group, at which point they lose all the brand value the name brings. interesting situation - although I doubt it amounts to anything in actuality

No matter what sad for those 3 girls in the end, I hope them the best, they took some bad decisions and have to live with it, that's life.

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Nonsense. A company shouldn't profit from a group's work after leaving said company. If they wanted to continue making money from that group, they should've tried harder to keep them signed. And what would you do in a case where most of the group wants to leave and continue together elsewhere, while the company manges to keep one or two members hostage? It strikes me as ridiculous to prevent a majority of the group from using their name & song catalogue just because the company happens to maintain a remnant.

It was already decided in T-ara's case that the company couldn't prevent them from using their name & songs going forward.

I know kpop fans 99% of the time are on the side of the group members and everyone hates the companies. But it's the company that created the groups in the first stage, selecting members, the sames and provided all the suport and resources to create the group. They should have some right to the trademark. And as I said, I don't say the company should be able to block the use of the name if all members left, but the company should at least get some compensation for the use of the name. The situation is of cource an other if the group members created the group and sign for a company, but that is not the case when we talk about the "normal" kpop groups that are created by the companies.

And you point out the problem, what happens if 60 % of the members want to split and go else where and 40 % of the members wants to stay or go else where, who has the right to the name? If three members split of and two stays, should three that split off have 100 % right to the name? the other two not?

I know about T-ara, but I don't think it's 100 % right to give the members of the group 100 % right to the name without compansions to the company that created them. And I say that even if T-ara is among my top favorite groups.

interesting