Not at Karina's dating scandal ending up on a Danish news article

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It's being covered by our local news as well, my mom just asked me about it and who Karina is.

Is this her "no publicity is bad publicity" moment?

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Western or not, Karina dating would probably be less frowned upon if she were as unappealing as Taylor Swift.

A number of Kpop idols would be in rehab too if Korean society hadn't stigmatized their issues to such a high degree, so they instead just keep it all to themselves.

Taeyeon is a homebody with chronic depression... who also suffered immensely from a dating scandal.

Kpop idols simply aren't given the freedom to shade each other in public. They'd be reprimanded. That hasn't always prevented them from having serious fallouts. See: Girls Generation. We've also discovered multiple cases of Kpop groups having hated or even bullied each other in secret. Or the time a girl cried wolf and tore her entire group down for supposedly "bullying" her. In addition, Kpop groups aren't usually given much creative freedom, making job-related disagreements significantly less likely than for western bandmates.

Never seen Unpretty Rapstar?

Interesting you try to have arguments against everything I said, while my point still stands:

They never do it the other way around when it comes to the American/Western music industry despite their many troubles.

There are negative things that happen more often in the West than in Korea.

Drugs is far more easily available, for one.

Taeyeon hasn't had anywhere near the decades long issues Britney has had.

And yes, there is far less beefing in Kpop. Some beefs have even turned deadly in the American music industry.

Western artists are also more often irresponsible when it comes to safety measures than kpop artists.

The difference is that Western artists are treated as individual cases. Like, "Britney has issues" instead of "the American music industry has issues". Whilst when something happens with a Kpop artists, it is quickly "Kpop has issues". Like I said, yes, it does. But the American/Western music industry has many severe issues too and they never pull Kpop in to compare it positively every time a Western artist is in some major scandal or trouble.

Karina's world tour

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Interesting you try to have arguments against everything I said, while my point still stands:

They never do it the other way around when it comes to the American/Western music industry despite their many troubles.

There are negative things that happen more often in the West than in Korea.

Drugs is far more easily available, for one.

Taeyeon hasn't had anywhere near the decades long issues Britney has had.

And yes, there is far less beefing in Kpop. Some beefs have even turned deadly in the American music industry.

Western artists are also more often irresponsible when it comes to safety measures than kpop artists.

The difference is that Western artists are treated as individual cases. Like, "Britney has issues" instead of "the American music industry has issues". Whilst when something happens with a Kpop artists, it is quickly "Kpop has issues". Like I said, yes, it does. But the American/Western music industry has many severe issues too and they never pull Kpop in to compare it positively every time a Western artist is in some major scandal or trouble.

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Just because you choose to ignore all the American tabloids using these people and their troubles as fodder on a regular basis, that doesn't mean you have a point. There is no, "Kpop bad, American music industry good" agenda. We have various media dedicated to letting us know how messed up the American industry is. The reason why Kpop gets rolled up into one convenient package is because it's a foreign music industry and American media doesn't have the time nor interest to dedicate the same degree of coverage to it. Pretty basic stuff. The supposed lack of "beefing" in Kpop has an equally basic explanation -- it exists, you just don't get to know about it, as I already explained.

BTW, Drugs are widely available in Korea. I don't know why people continue to spread this false trope that they're not, or where you even got it from.

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Just because you choose to ignore all the American tabloids using these people and their troubles as fodder on a regular basis, that doesn't mean you have a point. There is no, "Kpop bad, American music industry good" agenda. We have various media dedicated to letting us know how messed up the American industry is. The reason why Kpop gets rolled up into one convenient package is because it's a foreign music industry and American media doesn't have the time nor interest to dedicate the same degree of coverage to it. Pretty basic stuff. The supposed lack of "beefing" in Kpop has an equally basic explanation -- it exists, you just don't get to know about it, as I already explained.

BTW, Drugs are widely available in Korea. I don't know why people continue to spread this false trope that they're not, or where you even got it from.

Funny, you're talking about a foreign music industry when this is the Danish media, not American media. So both the American music industry and the Korean music industry are foreign. And yet European media don't usually generalize American music industry like that, but will do it for Kpop.

Very basic stuff, but somehow you don't get it or don't want to get it.

It was exactly my point that they don't make it an American or a Western thing, but an individual thing. When it's an individual in Kpop it becomes a general thing.

Also, funny how you have an explanation for every good thing in Kpop being bad somehow anyway, but don't do it the other way around.

Too bad you only approach this in such a one-sided way.

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Funny, you're talking about a foreign music industry when this is the Danish media, not American media. So both the American music industry and the Korean music industry are foreign. And yet European media don't usually generalize American music industry like that, but will do it for Kpop.

Very basic stuff, but somehow you don't get it or don't want to get it.

It was exactly my point that they don't make it an American or a Western thing, but an individual thing. When it's an individual in Kpop it becomes a general thing.

Also, funny how you have an explanation for every good thing in Kpop being bad somehow anyway, but don't do it the other way around.

Too bad you only approach this in such a one-sided way.

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There are levels to this stuff. Practically the entire world covers the goings-on in America much more than in Korea. And I suspect you get that but don't want to get it. The same way you're accusing me of being one-sided when you can't possibly not see the hypocrisy in that.

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There are levels to this stuff. Practically the entire world covers the goings-on in America much more than in Korea. And I suspect you get that but don't want to get it. The same way you're accusing me of being one-sided when you can't possibly not see the hypocrisy in that.

Where did I say they don't? To Denmark, both Korea and the USA are foreign markets.

You were the one putting the emphasis on foreign, so don't try to slither out of that now by trying to change the topic.

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Travis Kelce

Actually he seems to be into black girls exclusively. That's why some people doubt his relationship with Taylor as sincere. All of his past girlfriends were black.

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Actually he seems to be into black girls exclusively. That's why some people doubt his relationship with Taylor as sincere. All of his past girlfriends were black.

I did not know that but they seem happy for now so...

She now has 12.869 million instagram followers. The most for any 4th gen girl group member.

Never hurt Jennie, in fact made her more of an IT girl.

this is very embarrassing for kpop fans as a whole since we're always lumped together as one entity anyway