Me when making threads about newjeans
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have you eaten noona?
not my grandmother lol
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Let's, eat grandma.
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Let's, eat grandma.
Let's not lol
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I've never seen any professionally written article, ranging from Forbes to Billboard to the Grammys, write it as anything other than "NewJeans'", when trying to denote possession.
It's the same in sports. The Chicago Bulls are also technically one team, but you'll never see it written out as The Chicago Bulls's to denote possession ever.
A quick Google search will confirm all of the above
Is this supposed to prove me wrong? People say "if I was" all the time despite the fact that it's actually supposed to be 'if I were". There are rules people neglect because it makes more sense another way (or like because doesn't matter because good grammar is pointless if you can communicate effectively). Doesn't change the way grammar works because Forbes magazine didn't do it.
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Is this supposed to prove me wrong? People say "if I was" all the time despite the fact that it's actually supposed to be 'if I were". There are rules people neglect because it makes more sense another way (or like because doesn't matter because good grammar is pointless if you can communicate effectively). Doesn't change the way grammar works because Forbes magazine didn't do it.
Gimme the receipts and I'll take my L. All English grammar has some type a rule behind it. If nobody follows said rule, it does call into question its relevance, if not its technical accuracy.
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grammar the death of everyone
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Gimme the receipts and I'll take my L. All English grammar has some type a rule behind it. If nobody follows said rule, it does call into question its relevance, if not its technical accuracy.
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When to Put an Apostrophe After S—Rules Explained
One of the primary functions of the apostrophe punctuation mark is to show possession. Possession is how we show that something belongs to another person, place, or thing.
We use both an apostrophe and the letter S to make the possessive form of a noun. But where we put the apostrophe—before or after the S—varies between singular nouns and plural nouns. It also depends on how the plural form of a noun is spelled.
In general, the rule is to use only an apostrophe after S with a possessive plural noun. You do not need to place anything else after the possessive apostrophe.
With a singular noun, you place an apostrophe before S to show possession.
Let’s look at a few examples of possessive plural nouns:
The dogs’ water bowl
My two friends’ parents
The girls’ room
The apostrophe after S tells us there is more than one dog, more than one friend, and more than one girl, respectively.You can also place an apostrophe after the letter S when a proper singular noun ends in S.
Depending on your grammar resource or style guide, you may need to add an additional S after the apostrophe. Both are grammatically correct, but some resources recommend one way or the other.
This means you could write “James’s dog” or “James’ dog.” Generally, we pronounce possessive forms of names that end in S as if there is an apostrophe + S, as in “James’s.”
When Not to Put an Apostrophe After S
One of the most egregious apostrophe errors people make is using an apostrophe to make a proper noun, like a name, plural. But we only use an apostrophe with a proper name for showing possession.
For example, let’s look at the surname Smith. To make Smith plural, we need to add an S to the end. There is no reason to use an apostrophe unless you are showing possession.
Correct: Merry Christmas from the Smiths
Incorrect: Merry Christmas from the Smith’s
Incorrect: Merry Christmas from the Smiths’
If you need to show the Smiths possess something, use an apostrophe after the S. The rule about possessive apostrophes after S applies to proper nouns, too. See the example below:
Correct: The Smiths’ annual Christmas party
Incorrect: The Smith’s annual Christmas party
Incorrect: The Smiths annual Christmas party
In Conclusion, both of you could be right, it depends on the context.
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In Conclusion, both of you could be right, it depends on the context.
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When to Put an Apostrophe After S—Rules Explained
One of the primary functions of the apostrophe punctuation mark is to show possession. Possession is how we show that something belongs to another person, place, or thing.
We use both an apostrophe and the letter S to make the possessive form of a noun. But where we put the apostrophe—before or after the S—varies between singular nouns and plural nouns. It also depends on how the plural form of a noun is spelled.
In general, the rule is to use only an apostrophe after S with a possessive plural noun. You do not need to place anything else after the possessive apostrophe.
With a singular noun, you place an apostrophe before S to show possession.
Let’s look at a few examples of possessive plural nouns:
The dogs’ water bowl
My two friends’ parents
The girls’ room
The apostrophe after S tells us there is more than one dog, more than one friend, and more than one girl, respectively.You can also place an apostrophe after the letter S when a proper singular noun ends in S.
Depending on your grammar resource or style guide, you may need to add an additional S after the apostrophe. Both are grammatically correct, but some resources recommend one way or the other.
This means you could write “James’s dog” or “James’ dog.” Generally, we pronounce possessive forms of names that end in S as if there is an apostrophe + S, as in “James’s.”
When Not to Put an Apostrophe After S
One of the most egregious apostrophe errors people make is using an apostrophe to make a proper noun, like a name, plural. But we only use an apostrophe with a proper name for showing possession.
For example, let’s look at the surname Smith. To make Smith plural, we need to add an S to the end. There is no reason to use an apostrophe unless you are showing possession.
Correct: Merry Christmas from the Smiths
Incorrect: Merry Christmas from the Smith’s
Incorrect: Merry Christmas from the Smiths’
If you need to show the Smiths possess something, use an apostrophe after the S. The rule about possessive apostrophes after S applies to proper nouns, too. See the example below:
Correct: The Smiths’ annual Christmas party
Incorrect: The Smith’s annual Christmas party
Incorrect: The Smiths annual Christmas party
In Conclusion, both of you could be right, it depends on the context.
Exactly what I expected. Thanks
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Exactly what I expected. Thanks
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Gimme the receipts and I'll take my L. All English grammar has some type a rule behind it. If nobody follows said rule, it does call into question its relevance, if not its technical accuracy.
I don't understand what you want. I thought my original post covered all the bases.
I suppose I'll start with the basics (which you already understand, but I must recite for logic's sake).
Fundamental rules: when making a possessive noun, one should add an apostrophe and the letter "s" to a singular noun. For a plural noun, one should soley use an apostrophe.
Now consider the group NewJeans. Notice that you are referring to NewJeans as a group. This is singular. There is one group. We know this because when we say "NewJeans" to someone they think of a singular kpop group consisting of 5 members.
Can we agree up to this point?
Since the word "NewJeans" (which, despite being two words put together is actually one word) is singular, you must use an apostrophe and the letter "s'". I fail to see how I have created any logical errors here, but since this isn't good enough I will use an analogy.
imagine you had a friend names Wes. As I'm sure you know, if your friend owns something, you would call it Wes's. Why? Because his name is Wes and there is only one of him. Since this rule applies here, why would it not apply to the name "NewJeans"? Do multiple groups named NewJeans own the same thing? If the answer is no, why would you use the s-apostrophe convention as if that were the case. It simply doesn't make sense and there's no way you can spin it that makes it make sense using correct grammar rules.
The funny thing is: grammar isn't that important. In fact, my rebuttal has multiple small grammar errors and I'm sure most people reading this won't even notice them all because there are rules that are negligible.
If you were wanting me to find an example of grammatically incorrect headlines, then I have that. This Billboard headline reads, "Harry Styles & Olivia Wilde's Relationship: A Timeline". The letter "a" is an article and should not be capitalized (despite the popular false belief that you're supposed to capitalize after a colon). I've linked a Grammarly article about colon capitalization in case you don't believe me. This grammatical error proves that even major publications are not exempt from making mistakes.
So now that I have disproved you in multiple ways do you believe me?
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I don't understand what you want. I thought my original post covered all the bases.
I suppose I'll start with the basics (which you already understand, but I must recite for logic's sake).
Fundamental rules: when making a possessive noun, one should add an apostrophe and the letter "s" to a singular noun. For a plural noun, one should soley use an apostrophe.
Now consider the group NewJeans. Notice that you are referring to NewJeans as a group. This is singular. There is one group. We know this because when we say "NewJeans" to someone they think of a singular kpop group consisting of 5 members.
Can we agree up to this point?
Since the word "NewJeans" (which, despite being two words put together is actually one word) is singular, you must use an apostrophe and the letter "s'". I fail to see how I have created any logical errors here, but since this isn't good enough I will use an analogy.
imagine you had a friend names Wes. As I'm sure you know, if your friend owns something, you would call it Wes's. Why? Because his name is Wes and there is only one of him. Since this rule applies here, why would it not apply to the name "NewJeans"? Do multiple groups named NewJeans own the same thing? If the answer is no, why would you use the s-apostrophe convention as if that were the case. It simply doesn't make sense and there's no way you can spin it that makes it make sense using correct grammar rules.
The funny thing is: grammar isn't that important. In fact, my rebuttal has multiple small grammar errors and I'm sure most people reading this won't even notice them all because there are rules that are negligible.
If you were wanting me to find an example of grammatically incorrect headlines, then I have that. This Billboard headline reads, "Harry Styles & Olivia Wilde's Relationship: A Timeline". The letter "a" is an article and should not be capitalized (despite the popular false belief that you're supposed to capitalize after a colon). I've linked a Grammarly article about colon capitalization in case you don't believe me. This grammatical error proves that even major publications are not exempt from making mistakes.
So now that I have disproved you in multiple ways do you believe me?
I respect your passion for technically accurate implementation of English grammar, but you didn't have to go so hard in the paint. This entire time my belief has been that really both interpretations are valid; however, it is far more common to attach an "s" at the end of a word that appears in a plural case, even if it's technically a singular entity, like "NewJeans" or "Los Angeles Lakers". But I don't dispute your viewpoint on it; I just wanted a rule, like xx-jenn-xx provided for me.
Unsurprisingly, it basically summed up the entire conversation on the rule as "it depends. Kind of up to you"
I see mistakes in major publications all the time, and wonder how a professional editor let them get through, so I don't think they're infallible either. It's just that a quick perusal of Google made it clear to me that everyone has collectively decided to use "NewJeans'"....and you know what. Pause.
thebadguy I blame YOU for this. This might be your most infuriating, probably even unintentional bait thread ever
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I respect your passion for technically accurate implementation of English grammar, but you didn't have to go so hard in the paint. This entire time my belief has been that really both interpretations are valid; however, it is far more common to attach an "s" at the end of a word that appears in a plural case, even if it's technically a singular entity, like "NewJeans" or "Los Angeles Lakers". But I don't dispute your viewpoint on it; I just wanted a rule, like xx-jenn-xx provided for me.
Unsurprisingly, it basically summed up the entire conversation on the rule as "it depends. Kind of up to you"
I see mistakes in major publications all the time, and wonder how a professional editor let them get through, so I don't think they're infallible either. It's just that a quick perusal of Google made it clear to me that everyone has collectively decided to use "NewJeans'"....and you know what. Pause.
thebadguy I blame YOU for this. This might be your most infuriating, probably even unintentional bait thread ever
Im just here to be the grammar police
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lol i just wanted to know if i should write newjeans's or newjeans' or new'jeans or newjeani or newjeanses and im still not sure
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