People who are outside the internet stan meta are the ones enjoying Twice the most right now
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Because I don't need to. But yes, they are available. Feel free to search.
Each week of sales adds up and are certainly not insignificant.
Twice is literally known for the longevity of their sales. This year they've already sold 250k albums before the comeback worldwide. For your logic to be true their US sales should be behaving differently to their worldwide numbers. If these sales don't come from Korea, where yall claim they are forgotten, if they don't come from Japan, if they don't come from China, if they don't come from USA, then from where the fuck are they coming from?
Stop grasping at straws. Your attempt to shade Twice over UK charts failed thanks to other Onces pointing out your false logic, now your job here is done. Good fucking bye.
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Because I don't need to. But yes, they are available. Feel free to search.
Twice is literally known for the longevity of their sales. This year they've already sold 250k albums before the comeback worldwide. For your logic to be true their US sales should be behaving differently to their worldwide numbers. If these sales don't come from Korea, where yall claim they are forgotten, if they don't come from Japan, if they don't come from China, if they don't come from USA, then from where the fuck are they coming from?
Stop grasping at straws. Your attempt to shade Twice over UK charts failed thanks to other Onces pointing out your false logic, now your job here is done. Good fucking bye.
I am unable to find them, as I have stated. You are saying they are available, when they are not. If you can find the 8th week pure of sales for B1&2 or Born Pink, I will gladly eat my words.
Most k-pop groups have great longevity in their sales. BP is no different.
It seems you are the one grasping at straws since most of the things you've said have either been false or claiming things exist when they don't.
I never attempted to shade Twice over the UK charts, I was genuinely curious if there was some rule that was preventing them from charting, going from #7 prediction to not charting at all was more than suspicious. Not a single person questioned anything about what I was asking in that thread. All we talked about were the rules about inclusions impacting qualifying sales lol. I don't think you even read things fully, which further shows how full of hot air you are.
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Nah mate, I am saying B1&2 sold the best from the available record and unavailable record can go either way or more likely went to Twice than to BP. You're literally arguing that BP sold more long term but unable to prove it. Instead you want me prove that they didn't. What kind of logic is that? Why am I supposed to prove that? Internet is free. You either find and present me the proof or you admit that Twice sold more albums in US.
And mind you, B1&2 only had 4 version. Ready To Be will be selling even more.
I never attempted to shade Twice over the UK charts, I was genuinely curious if there was some rule that was preventing them from charting, going from #7 prediction to not charting at all was more than suspicious. Not a single person questioned anything I said in that thread. All we talked about were the rules about inclusions impacting qualifying sales lol. I don't think you even read things fully, which further shows how full of hot air you are.
You absolute buffoon, that's exactly what I am referring to, you don't see that as a shade?? REally? Making an account specifically to point out that "Twice sales are suspicious" is called someting else nowadays?
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They for sure aren't fighting over sales numbers
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Nah mate, I am saying B1&2 sold the best from the available record and unavailable record can go either way or more likely went to Twice than to BP. You're literally arguing that BP sold more long term but unable to prove it. Instead you want me prove that they didn't. What kind of logic is that? Why am I supposed to prove that? Internet is free. You either find and present me the proof or you admit that Twice sold more albums in US.
And mind you, B1&2 only had 4 version. Ready To Be will be selling even more.
You absolute buffoon, that's exactly what I am referring to, you don't see that as a shade?? REally? Making an account specifically to point out that "Twice sales are suspicious" is called someting else nowadays?
You were the one saying the data is there, and when cornered you're unable to provide the proof you say exists. Your logic is backwards. Every single thing you said is based on assumption. What do we know though? We know BP sold more units, and we know they charted 5 weeks longer. Logic dictate's that it is more likely they sold more pure as well based on charting. You claimed Twice sold more, despite it going against logic. You're using the tired "why am I supposed to prove that?" argument because the evidence you are claiming does not exist. You just needed some straw to grab at, so you made something up again and don't want to be caught in a lie.
We will see how long Ready To Be charts for and how it does over time,
I think you lack reading comprehension. I'm not saying Twice's sales in the UK are suspicious, I'm saying that the CHART company is suspicious. that's why I was asking about the UK Chart rules and that's why everyone in the thread was discussing that. Contrary to your belief, I believe Twice SHOULD have charted there.
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I was never going to provide you any proof, I made that clear from the beginning, you cornered yourself. All I said is that you can find it, not that I will find it for you. So go on big boy, go search.
Every single thing you said is based on assumption. What do we know though? We know BP sold more units, and we know they charted 5 weeks longer. Logic dictate's that it is more likely they sold more pure as well based on charting.
Says what I said is based on assumptions....Proceeds to make assumptions based on 5 week bottom charting. I mean what are even the unit numbers in this case? We're talking about thousands if not hundreds. Like you don't even know the unit numbers for buttom charting yet you are assuming pure sales. You're trying to find out an unknown from an unknown. If you ever studied math you should know what dumb fuck argument that is.
I think you lack reading comprehension. I'm not saying Twice's sales in the UK are suspicious, I'm saying that the CHART company is suspicious.
It is literally on the record, but go on lmfao
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I was never going to provide you any proof, I made that clear from the beginning, you cornered yourself. All I said is that you can find it, not that I will find it for you. So go on big boy, go search.
Says what I said is based on assumptions....Proceeds to make assumptions based on 5 week bottom charting. I mean what are even the unit numbers in this case? We're talking about thousands if not hundreds. Like you don't even know the unit numbers for buttom charting yet you are assuming pure sales. You're trying to find out an unknown from an unknown. If you ever studied math you should know what dumb fuck argument that is.
It is literally on the record, but go on lmfao
I searched and it indeed does not exist, you were lying and made things up as expected. Care to explain why you lied? Because there was no real way to back up your claims? It's not that you don't want to find it, it's that you can't.
Several of the last 5 weeks for Born Pink were higher than several weeks of Twice's 8 week run, so I wouldn't really call that "5 week bottom charting." The first 8 weeks of Born Pink were also at, on average, much higher ranks than Twice's album.
Both of us are making assumptions about pure sales, but I am making more points based on actual data to go with those assumptions. You've been vague without giving any relevant data the entire time because you have no argument. You make claims like "it's literally on record" and "it exists" but every time it's literally just you blowing hot air since you have no real proof of anything. -
Cause I wanted you to check and let me know
Several of the last 5 weeks for Born Pink were higher than several weeks of Twice's 8 week run, so I wouldn't really call that "5 week bottom charting." The first 8 weeks of Born Pink were also at, on average, much higher ranks than Twice's album.
Both of us are making assumptions about pure sales, but I am making more points based on actual data to go with those assumptions. You've been vague without giving any relevant data the entire time because you have no argument. You make claims like "it's literally on record" and "it exists" but every time it's literally just you blowing hot air since you have no real proof of anything.
It is all bottom charting. Pure sales are always front loaded. Billboard, Gaon, Hanteo, take whichever you want and compare. 80-90% of sales happen during first week. You keep saying "logic logic logic" but somehow missing the biggest one there. BP had better streams, hence better units, hence longer charting, we've already established that. Nothing suggests they kept selling a lot of albums on their 10+ weeks. Absolutely nothing, no logic behind that claim.
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They for sure aren't fighting over sales numbers
I am not the one derailing my own thread, it is yall's new buddy.
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Cause I wanted you to check and let me know
It is all bottom charting. Pure sales are always front loaded. Billboard, Gaon, Hanteo, take whichever you want and compare. 80-90% of sales happen during first week. You keep saying "logic logic logic" but somehow missing the biggest one there. BP had better streams, hence better units, hence longer charting, we've already established that. Nothing suggests they kept selling a lot of albums on their 10+ weeks. Absolutely nothing, no logic behind that claim.
So you admit you literally just lied and hoped that the data you were making up existed? lol.
What I was able to find, in the first 5 weeks, BP did 120k pure sales, compared to 75k pure in the first week. That's 63 percent of the sales being in the first week, with more sales after(data unknown as far as my searching ability), So your claim that 80-90 percent of sales happen during the first week is another lie you're just hoping to be true.The sales for Twice may have been more front loaded for all we know.
You say no logic behind that claim, but there you go. You've been proven wrong again.
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I almost always laugh at Dreamer's threads cause It's the same path: He brings a subject to discuss > people nitpick a small thing he says > the thread goes to a totally different route than the original idea
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Kpop has always been adapt or die. I have to say Twices continual rise in popularity and sales is due to their ability to attract new and different breeds of fans, that's why their one of the few remaining 3 gen groups still constantly talked about.
People outside definitely are enjoying this and not just this comeback but previous ones too.
We all know how fickle the Korean fans are and obviously those fans have to be replaced as they exit the fandom yet Twice continues to break expectations and records so their rate of fan acquisition is growing faster than their decline.
Over time I've been seen quite a few fans who are quite differen from what you'd expect from the typical kpop stans so there are definitely two types, or more, of fans here, that's too explain for increasing numbers. Fans aren't getting richer, and they're still have comeback every few months so those fans are out there. Economic conditions haven't improved enough for Onces to buy double the albums they could afford before lol
This is like a "discovering dark matter" situation lol
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I almost always laugh at Dreamer's threads cause It's the same path: He brings a subject to discuss > people nitpick a small thing he says > the thread goes to a totally different route than the original idea
I am glad someone noticed
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I almost always laugh at Dreamer's threads cause It's the same path: He brings a subject to discuss > people nitpick a small thing he says > the thread goes to a totally different route than the original idea
That's because a lot of users don't get "it".
Plus..... pandemonium!
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