Thougts on Hybe shutting down the Vlive Archive?

it sucks but they should've backed all of it up and just spread it around forums and torrent sites

so the person backed up with the web name... vlivearchive? no wonder they got caught. i'm all for free access to online content especially for disbanded group, but you have to play vigilante for that. army also have several people creating cloud drive of contents, but it's hush hush. like duh, we're dealing with legal protected IP here.

regarding the vlive itself, i understand fans' sentimentality but as a working person no way i can fault naver nor hybe for shutting down vlive. they are no youtube, preserving dynamic data (video, at that) with public access requires a lot of human labor and hardware maintenance. that's huge overhead for mostly free service, no ad, and dwindled traffic. without naver investing to weverse, vlive is bound to be taken down, they operated in red since 2019.

my only gripe in this situation is why companies of groups won't transfer their archives to...idk youtube? they can get revenue from ad anyways (but i'm not sure how the math works so 🙃). if hybe and naver prohibit them, well they sucks.

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I don't get why they even bought vlive just to integrate with weverse...it was bound to be a messy project

Old trick.
Kill your competitor first then sell your own.

Whilst it will be sad to see all that content disappear - it's also probably very expensive so keep all those videos hosted

I just went to that website and it works?

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I don't get why they even bought vlive just to integrate with weverse...it was bound to be a messy project

it was naver who proposed this merger (maybe because BTS was about to leave vlive)

All of the companies were informed and given an year time to tranfer their contents. I'm sure they mustve transfered the contents and would upload in any of their prefered platform in future.

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I don't get why they even bought vlive just to integrate with weverse...it was bound to be a messy project

they didn't buy it, they merged

Naver invested approximately $320 millions in beNX(Weverse)/ bought 49% shares of Weverse corp

Evil corp

Im not happy with it

They should've been more stealth with backing up the content. However, I also think Hybe could've looked the other way because I don't see how permitting a fan archive is going to hurt their bottom line much.

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They should've been more stealth with backing up the content. However, I also think Hybe could've looked the other way because I don't see how permitting a fan archive is going to hurt their bottom line much.

it's all predatory ip laws. Basically they state that if you don't challenge a strike to your ip it becomes free game. So even if HYBE wanted it to be a thing for fans, the fact they didn't host it meant that if hybe never did anything about it, after a set amount of time anyone would be able to claim ip rights and hybe by law would have no choice but let anyone use it. It would be like if you made a marvel movie and marvel studios did nothing afterwards anyone can make one and they can't do shit about it

Another move by HYBE to make it known that fans are way-down on their totem pole.

Hopefully they don't charge 50 dollars for NewJeans full album.

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it's all predatory ip laws. Basically they state that if you don't challenge a strike to your ip it becomes free game. So even if HYBE wanted it to be a thing for fans, the fact they didn't host it meant that if hybe never did anything about it, after a set amount of time anyone would be able to claim ip rights and hybe by law would have no choice but let anyone use it. It would be like if you made a marvel movie and marvel studios did nothing afterwards anyone can make one and they can't do shit about it

Ah ok. Thanks for explaining that. Makes a lot of sense.

Don't see people crying about SM buying Universe and transferring it to Bubble.

VLIVE is a name protected by copyrights, who in the right mind created an illegal backup using this name...

It was obvious that they will find it. Like try to be at least a little bit stealthy...

I also don't understand people that are crying that HYBE is bad because they could live it ''alive'' - maintaining servers is not cheap and there is no income coming from those videos anymore. Sucks for fans but it is what it is.

And if the groups didn't transfer it to a different platform, it means they don't care about this content - so why should HYBE care about it?

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Don't see people crying about SM buying Universe and transferring it to Bubble.

VLIVE is a name protected by copyrights, who in the right mind created an illegal backup using this name...

It was obvious that they will find it. Like try to be at least a little bit stealthy...

I also don't understand people that are crying that HYBE is bad because they could live it ''alive'' - maintaining servers is not cheap and there is no income coming from those videos anymore. Sucks for fans but it is what it is.

And if the groups didn't transfer it to a different platform, it means they don't care about this content - so why should HYBE care about it?

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People did cry over universe,but since it's not as big or the main "central idol platform" most don't care. People aren't doing lives on universe🤡. As for groups backing up content? Ok let me break everyone's fantasy, most idols are stupid as in technology stupid and some academically as well. The overwhelming vast majority cannot do a regular job because since childhood they spent 99% of their lives being a idol plus the isolated nature of idol life and the sterilized environment agencies try to bring them up in leaves most of them socially awkward to the point they cannot be " normal" and would fail most normal organic met someone outside mechanics= they can't human properly. Couple this with their overbearing workloads to the point that sometimes important news is unknown to them. So something like some old vlive clips? I guarantee they don't even know this issue even exists. They probably get told vlive is gone as soon as they think about going live and a staff or manager is like oh yeah use this new thing now.