Why have Army abandoned their leader?

  • RM's new song has only 10 mil views after a day, what's going on? Even Itzy pulled 20 mil and nobody knows they released a song.


    Will the hiatus put a spotlight on the popularity gap between the members and lead to jealousy between them?

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  • i just KNOW a kpoppie is not talking about the bts solos...


    he is top 5 album sales for ksoloists in just 1 day, doing amazing on kcharts, biggest ksoloist on spotify charts, doing amazing on Apple Music, album has critical acclaim,... except for other bts members, no ksoloist is touching him. with all those yt streaming farms, you can keep your yt views drag if that's the only thing you got against him.

  • How sad it is that haters can only find youtube as the only thing to drag bts members with…

  • Armys only care about one member and that's jungkook. He's doing better than I expected.

  • He sold 550k on his debut day and has got the biggest debut ever for a Asian soloist on spotify with indigo. And his song is charting decently on kcharts too. Who abandoned who again?

  • I'm just gonna leave this here for this obsessed op

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    he's doing very well so don't need your fake concern :pepe-hehe:

  • i just KNOW a kpoppie is not talking about the bts solos...


    he is top 5 album sales for ksoloists in just 1 day, doing amazing on kcharts, biggest ksoloist on spotify charts, doing amazing on Apple Music, album has critical acclaim,... except for other bts members, no ksoloist is touching him. with all those yt streaming farms, you can keep your yt views drag if that's the only thing you got against him.

    critical acclaim? that's an excuse that fans of flop groups like red velvet use when they can't touch twice's success. so army don't use youtube now? spotify is irrelevant everywhere except the US.

  • RM's new song has only 10 mil views after a day, what's going on? Even Itzy pulled 20 mil and nobody knows they released a song.


    Will the hiatus put a spotlight on the popularity gap between the members and lead to jealousy between them?

    He's got 10 new songs, loads of content on album making, tiny desk concert to keep his fans busy.

  • critical acclaim? that's an excuse that fans of flop groups like red velvet use when they can't touch twice's success. so army don't use youtube now? spotify is irrelevant everywhere except the US.

    so, you're gonna skip over all the other achievements? sales, Apple Music, kcharts,...? Joon released a 10 songs long album & you truly have nothing to say against him except for his TT yt views? a metric even western artists/stans don't care about. thats so sad & embarrasing for you lol


    also; like others said, most of itzys views are ads (and this isn't meant to drag itzy, because i'm 90% sure this is a bitter blonk trying to set up both rm & itzy).

  • critical acclaim? that's an excuse that fans of flop groups like red velvet use when they can't touch twice's success. so army don't use youtube now? spotify is irrelevant everywhere except the US.

    why are you so concerned about him op? he's charting well every where else and earning good money from all the royalties and album sales. are you concerned he's not earning more? should he thank you for it? :pepe-narrow-eyes:

  • He is doing very well, LOL!

    20M filtered streams today alone!

    Your faves can only imagine this numbers while salivating.

    Yes, Army is here for the leader

    And fk y all for dragging JK,

  • Armys only care about one member and that's jungkook. He's doing better than I expected.

    Yes and by that metric other groups' fans abandoned all the members in their faves groups because they're doing worse than Bts. Please love your faves more!

    critical acclaim? that's an excuse that fans of flop groups like red velvet use when they can't touch twice's success. so army don't use youtube now? spotify is irrelevant everywhere except the US.

    Yes, many Armys move to Spotify and other platforms instead. And why that's an excuse when RM currently breaking many records here and there which means Armys proving their words. If he didn't break records anyway then you can call us a liar yet that's not a case, very far from the example you given. Just because of YouTube, seriously? He even sold more than 500k in a day without big China fanbase like Bp or Baekhyun for example, and without international ship to western country and Japan. He charted well in Korean chart too. Armys are the most supportive fandom, we able to pull that number when they released 3 solo albums less than 6 month. No other groups able to do so.

  • Who cares about youtube views, I only had time to watch the mv twice, but I listen to the album over and over. Itzy have more views because their fanbase consists mostly of kids with a lot of time on their hands, while RM fans such as myself have jobs, partners, etc.

  • Youtube has never been Namjoon's strong point and that's not going to change unless he starts using ads. His streaming numbers are high and his album sales after everything is shipped will be in the upper echelon of album sellers in SK. Overall, a highly successful "debut" album. Sorry he didn't flop like some wanted him to :waterr:

  • Well we all know that making it on YT is like finding the Holy Grail... it's like the top metric for commercial success. A big F to Armys .. for abandoning dear leader on the YT hill.

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  • it's funny arnys suddenly don't care about yt and topping the charts when they were the ones so obsessed with it and the most important and used to mock other groups/soloists for it.... ppl are now also mocked for selling lots of cd's but chart low but that doesn't apply to bts for some reason :/

  • it's funny arnys suddenly don't care about yt and topping the charts when they were the ones so obsessed with it and the most important and used to mock other groups/soloists for it.... ppl are now also mocked for selling lots of cd's but chart low but that doesn't apply to bts for some reason :/

    Because he's charted well and having great numbers everywhere compare to any k-soloist. Do You living in parallel world or do you want to dismiss that over yt views? Sorry if your faves only achievements is on YouTube. I'm sorry for them because apparently their fans love Bts more than to make them less nugu in front of Bts.

  • it's funny arnys suddenly don't care about yt and topping the charts when they were the ones so obsessed with it and the most important and used to mock other groups/soloists for it.... ppl are now also mocked for selling lots of cd's but chart low but that doesn't apply to bts for some reason :/

    Armys grew up.. got less time but more disposable income so can afford to buy albums and subscribe to spotify instead of free streaming on YT to support the boys. It is 10 years later you know. Guess you are still stuck with the old mindset.

  • Because he's charted well and having great numbers everywhere compare to any k-soloist. Do You living in parallel world or do you want to dismiss that over yt views? Sorry if your faves only achievements is on YouTube. I'm sorry for them because apparently their fans love Bts more than to make them less nugu in front of Bts.

    Oh come on now?( why do you talk like that?


    You guys used to brag about those achievements but those achievements suddenly don't matter because their solo projects are not doing as great as everyone hoped would be. Now other achievements matter that you people used to mock others for.

  • critical acclaim? that's an excuse that fans of flop groups like red velvet use when they can't touch twice's success. so army don't use youtube now? spotify is irrelevant everywhere except the US.

    "Irrelevant everywhere except the US" are you okay anon...or are you actually from mars or something?


    Imagine calling spotify Irrelevant when it's the biggest music streaming platform in the world which streams contribute most to the fixed charts round the world?

  • Well we all know that making it on YT is like finding the Holy Grail... it's like the top metric for commercial success. A big F to Armys .. for abandoning dear leader on the YT hill.

    Youtube views barely count towards charts nowadays due to botting issues. Mostly spotify and AM carry the most weight!

  • RM's new song has only 10 mil views after a day, what's going on? Even Itzy pulled 20 mil and nobody knows they released a song.


    Will the hiatus put a spotlight on the popularity gap between the members and lead to jealousy between them?

    Wildflower was trending #1 MV in the US, which surprisingly BTS didn’t even do when they were breaking YT records. Don’t worry your pretty little head about RM. He will be fine.

  • it's funny arnys suddenly don't care about yt and topping the charts when they were the ones so obsessed with it and the most important and used to mock other groups/soloists for it.... ppl are now also mocked for selling lots of cd's but chart low but that doesn't apply to bts for some reason :/

    Remind me where he is charting low? He literally allof his album songs on top 100 list on spotify on Christmas season and is on his way to become a million seller.

  • it's funny arnys suddenly don't care about yt and topping the charts when they were the ones so obsessed with it and the most important and used to mock other groups/soloists for it.... ppl are now also mocked for selling lots of cd's but chart low but that doesn't apply to bts for some reason :/

    Its funny how Kpoppies care so much about what armys care and think about it. Thanks for making sure Armys are the main characters

  • it's funny arnys suddenly don't care about yt and topping the charts when they were the ones so obsessed with it and the most important and used to mock other groups/soloists for it.... ppl are now also mocked for selling lots of cd's but chart low but that doesn't apply to bts for some reason :/

    what charts are you even talking about???

    he has literally the best spotify & Apple music chart numbers for a ksoloist and even doing very well on kcharts...


    just admit that you KNOW that if you only wrote "armys suddenly dont care about yt.." you would look so stupid, so you're just making up bs. He is outcharting every ksoloist (except some of his own members) internationally & killing it domestically.

  • it's funny arnys suddenly don't care about yt and topping the charts when they were the ones so obsessed with it and the most important and used to mock other groups/soloists for it.... ppl are now also mocked for selling lots of cd's but chart low but that doesn't apply to bts for some reason :/

    Youtube has been in decline for a while now.

    It started when artist like Taylor and Blackpink were exposed for increasing their streams with ads.


    Youtube had to exclude ads and people stopped caring. That's it.

  • ;( ah the amount of shots fired but no hit. As usual can't have a nice talk with armys without them getting so defensive and using "kpoppies" as if their oppas are not kpop lol

  • ;( ah the amount of shots fired but no hit. As usual can't have a nice talk with armys without them getting so defensive and using "kpoppies" as if their oppas are not kpop lol

    You make no sense. All of the shots hit right the correct spot lmao. He quite literally had blast of a debut on spotify and sold half a million on his debut day. yall seething as usual.

  • Oh come on now?( why do you talk like that?


    You guys used to brag about those achievements but those achievements suddenly don't matter because their solo projects are not doing as great as everyone hoped would be. Now other achievements matter that you people used to mock others for.

    Oh you want me to brag, let me just do it cuz your faves sadly have nothing for you to hype or brag.


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    This is just a part of it and he achieved it in two days and this is what your faves only can dream. He obviously would sold a million sooner or later. Again, please hype you faves, they are dying to flop like Bts. But oh if this is flop, what that makes your faves is? Extra flop? :ahh-bee:

  • ;( ah the amount of shots fired but no hit. As usual can't have a nice talk with armys without them getting so defensive and using "kpoppies" as if their oppas are not kpop lol

    What hit actually you want? His solo albums debut with highest spotify number for k soloist, charted in k-chart where all the bg right now unable to do so, highest asian soloist to peaking in spotify, all kill in all top music market, sold more than 500k albums and many more. What actually you want armys to prove?

  • Is YT views still a thang?


    Maybe for op's group?

  • ;( ah the amount of shots fired but no hit. As usual can't have a nice talk with armys without them getting so defensive and using "kpoppies" as if their oppas are not kpop lol

    Why u replying then? Must have hurt extra special, huh?!

  • Oh you want me to brag, let me just do it cuz your faves sadly have nothing for you to hype or brag.


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    This is just a part of it and he achieved it in two days and this is what your faves only can dream. He obviously would sold a million sooner or later. Again, please hype you faves, they are dying to flop like Bts. But oh if this is flop, what that makes your faves is? Extra flop? :ahh-bee:

    Not an actual achievement if fans set songs on reply mode to achieve something for bragging rights and buy multiple albums to break/set a recordtho but whatever since it's kpop and achievements in kpop are different

  • Not an actual achievement if fans set songs on reply mode to achieve something for bragging rights and buy multiple albums to break/set a recordtho but whatever since it's kpop and achievements in kpop are different


    You really never once thought that western artists manipulate their album sales and paid streaming farms to stream their music? Look up Glendive, Montana. You can't be that naive, can you?


    Kpop having many album versions were looked down by billboard until it was Taylor Swift who had 20 versions and all of sudden, it was something innovative. Dua Lipa's fans used VPN to chart on BB200 but was caught.


    Western artists being shady about ranking in the BB 200 by doing bundles was fine until BB finally said enough is enough. Newsflash . . . BTS never participated in bundling. ARMY never participated on using VPN.


    So yes, for BTS, it was an achievement that fans are buying their albums. If it was an achievement to manipulate Taylor's sales through bundles and 20 versions, why is it not achievement for BTS who didn't bundle anything but relied on ARMYs support to buy their music?

  • NamJoon album success both international and kchart really make antis mad..

    LOL!

    why?

    Y all write many draft in anon but can't post them because the result is different ?


    :boompepe:

  • And yet you all let him down with this release. It's a shame that BTS was the biggest group, but as solo acts all the focus is on V and Jungkook and the rest get paid dust. If this was an MV by one of those two it would have hit 40 mill in one day.

    Please let Namjoon know he has amazing thighs, since you seem to be his best friend and he confided to you that ARMY "let him down"...


    Is that or you are having hallucinations about him? obsessive behaviour is dangerous

  • And yet you all let him down with this release. It's a shame that BTS was the biggest group, but as solo acts all the focus is on V and Jungkook and the rest get paid dust. If this was an MV by one of those two it would have hit 40 mill in one day.

    Tells me how you aren't an army and all this is fake concern to pit BTS members against each other in an attempt to make Armys fight cause if you were an Army you would know Jungkook's MV for Dreamers debuted with barely 11million views.


    I know its tough to believe this but Armys prefer Spotify and stream there.

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