Many 4th gen girls are praised for their looks, they are beautiful and known by kpop fans in general... you can't deny Karina, Winter, Ryujin, Yeji, Yujin, Kazuha, Minjin fame, but there is only one it girl in 4th generation, and I don't have to name her to people know who Iam talking about, it's so obvious it's even funny to see fandons fighting over it
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I mean people add qualifiers to everything, why is it ok to qualify with 4th gen but not further?
Remove the qualifers and all proclamations of IT girl here and there and it all just looks silly as long as IU exists and is active, if theres a wall between wonyoung and other 4th gen girls, then there's the moon between IU and anyone else in korea.
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I mean people add qualifiers to everything, why is it ok to qualify with 4th gen but not further?
Remove the qualifers and all proclamations of IT girl here and there and it all just looks silly as long as IU exists and is active, if theres a wall between wonyoung and other 4th gen girls, then there's the moon between IU and anyone else in korea.
Using IU for any such debates is like a nuclear option.
Just check AKP or any forum, most discussions about any achievement in kpop will have words like "Other than IU, except for IU, not including IU, barring IU" etc.
So it is kind of implicit that all these debates are only applicable, when she is not in play.
Let the Stans have their fun.
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I mean people add qualifiers to everything, why is it ok to qualify with 4th gen but not further?
Remove the qualifers and all proclamations of IT girl here and there and it all just looks silly as long as IU exists and is active, if theres a wall between wonyoung and other 4th gen girls, then there's the moon between IU and anyone else in korea.
A strawberry moon to be precise

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I mean people add qualifiers to everything, why is it ok to qualify with 4th gen but not further?
Remove the qualifers and all proclamations of IT girl here and there and it all just looks silly as long as IU exists and is active, if theres a wall between wonyoung and other 4th gen girls, then there's the moon between IU and anyone else in korea.
That's because people always try and force IU into the conversations where people are obviously discussing idols. Literally every other it girl is or started as an idol: Jennie,Yoona, Suzy, Seolhyun, Irene etc. ALL IDOLS. And, no, being a solo artist doesn't count. The other thing too is while IU is considered pretty, she isn't top visual level like the other it girls. She just doesn't fit the it girl image at all. If anything, she is more of a "girl next door' type. Laslty, being an it girl doesn't just boil down to popularity, it's a mixture of many things like the some I mentioned.
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That's because people always try and force IU into the conversations where people are obviously discussing idols. Literally every other it girl is or started as an idol: Jennie,Yoona, Suzy, Seolhyun, Irene etc. ALL IDOLS. And, no, being a solo artist doesn't count. The other thing too is while IU is considered pretty, she isn't top visual level like the other it girls. She just doesn't fit the it girl image at all. If anything, she is more of a "girl next door' type. Laslty, being an it girl doesn't just boil down to popularity, it's a mixture of many things like the some I mentioned.
Aha the usual nonsense to exclude IU - she is not an IDOL, "Soloists don't count"
Yet this memo on IDOLS hasn't reached IU - who considers herself an idol OR the awards organizers like KMA, MMA etc., who categorise IU along with songs from idol groups.
They should listen to some random netizens, who know better than them about idols.
"not considered a top visual" yet another subjective opinion. It girls are of a diverse visual range, Yoona is still a cute baby, Hyori smoking, Suzy more classical.. so who is exclude IU's prettiness as not "it"..?
People exclude IU from such discussions, be it chart achievements, CFs, idol acting or such IT-ness, because with her in play, they can't boast about their faves..
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No it's Jennie and generation's are made up by kpop fans that know their favs don't have any impressive achievements
She literally doesn't even have as much impact as rookie Jennie did lol.
Strawberry girl is 4 years into her career and helped Innisfree tank in sales meanwhile Jennie boosts brands by atleast 50%.
Enough of IT girl talk there's no such thing of 2nd gen, 3rd, 4th BS there can only be one active It girl and that is Jennie.
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Aha the usual nonsense to exclude IU - she is not an IDOL, "Soloists don't count"
Yet this memo on IDOLS hasn't reached IU - who considers herself an idol OR the awards organizers like KMA, MMA etc., who categorise IU along with songs from idol groups.
They should listen to some random netizens, who know better than them about idols.
"not considered a top visual" yet another subjective opinion. It girls are of a diverse visual range, Yoona is still a cute baby, Hyori smoking, Suzy more classical.. so who is exclude IU's prettiness as not "it"..?
People exclude IU from such discussions, be it chart achievements, CFs, idol acting or such IT-ness, because with her in play, they can't boast about their faves..
Keep acting like it's some conspiracy, delusional IU stan, but in the world of Kpop idols, she will never be seen as valid. Go compare her to other solo artists like Baek A Yeon or Akmu or whoever else if you are that desperate for her to get attention.
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Correct.. rather the high fashion, things like slime, purple tracksuits, spacing out.. Those are the kind of things IU had the public trend and those aren't limited to young women either.
Of course the ultimate stamp of IT-ness is Soju endorsement and she has been the model for Jinro for 7 years, even taking it back from Irene
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I mean people add qualifiers to everything, why is it ok to qualify with 4th gen but not further?
Remove the qualifers and all proclamations of IT girl here and there and it all just looks silly as long as IU exists and is active, if theres a wall between wonyoung and other 4th gen girls, then there's the moon between IU and anyone else in korea.
When IU debut Wonyoung was literally 4 years old you can't be serious making this comparison
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Correct.. rather the high fashion, things like slime, purple tracksuits, spacing out.. Those are the kind of things IU had the public trend and those aren't limited to young women either.
Of course the ultimate stamp of IT-ness is Soju endorsement and she has been the model for Jinro for 7 years, even taking it back from Irene
IU is the top cf girl of Korea, and also joined the select list of #1 on the old KOBACO list with Jun Ji Hyun and Kim Yuna
not even Seolhyun and Suzy did that on their peaks
IU has being doing trends even since her days of You and I with her dress, to her makeup style from mc days, the baby hair who is back now with Wonyoung, the monumental 2017 that she was nothing just trend with clothes but also even with her mannerism koreans were copying everything from her back then. Nerdy should thanks to her they are a thing nowadays.
Then we have HDL wheres you can see a lot of influence after the in some idols concepts (including RV Monster wheres Irene was basically being Jang Manwol). IU was also the biggest search name on kr instagram in that year because everyone was obsessed with Manwol looks.
Also even tho is not exactly positive, the procediments towards whitewashing are constantly being attached to IU.External Content www.youtube.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.
- some points we need to consider
Jennie in my opnion is the biggest "it girl" from the names mentioned here, more than IU, but she is also not a top visual, Jisoo still fit more the standards
yet Jennie is the it girl
if people want to say who is a it girl or not then they will just have her and Wony nowadays to beat IU
the soju cf is also the big thing since the beginning when Hyori the biggest superstar of this century was used to be a soju model and dictated the styles of their cfs
and the soju cfs are often being divided in two eras
the era of Lee Hyori more sexy exposing body
the era of IU, a young and "pure" imagesoju is with every girl who want the it girl title are aiming, its not a surprise that Karina want to do one
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