There hasn't been a non big 3 girl group like IVE since T-ara

agree

T-Ara was big rival SNSD back then. They had digital, physical, and popular members by gp. They recognition as a group in sk also was great.

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Sistar would be a better example as they come from the same company as Ive. Their career had hit after hit until disbandment. Main difference is that Ive actually have fandom, sales, international popularity and 4th gen's it girl.

During their peak (2010-2012 before scandal), T-ara had hit songs that were bigger than sistar ever had (roly poly, lovey dovey, cry cry...) and they had great album sales (for the time) as well as a huge hit girl in Jiyeon and two almost hit girls (hyomin and eunjung). That's why they may be more comparable to Ive than Sistar.

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Gfriend fell after Fingertip and never had the sales or international impact to be comparable to Ive.

In 2016 it was definitely TW, GF and maybe IOI.

BP became important the next year

People here disrespecting Sistar big time. Remember, they have more no. 1s snsd and bts. If you want to come for their album sales and international popularity, remember they are a pre-bts group. Back then the best selling album was around 250k and the use of social media wasn't prevalent. Even big3 groups were nugus internationally apart from east asia and SEA.

Ive had a great start but let's not jump the gun.

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During their peak (2010-2012 before scandal), T-ara had hit songs that were bigger than sistar ever had (roly poly, lovey dovey, cry cry...) and they had great album sales (for the time) as well as a huge hit girl in Jiyeon and two almost hit girls (hyomin and eunjung). That's why they may be more comparable to Ive than Sistar.

???

The only one of those songs this is true for is roly poly.

Ma boy and So Cool were both bigger than Cry Cry and Alone and Loving U were well ahead of lovey dovey.