Starship is OFFICIALLY in the Big 5!

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nah

but can be if Ive will be mega successful, they are on the way though

Who’s your ult ?

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Member? Its Rei all day errday.

no group is it ive ? Rei is cool she your ult bias ?

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KakaoM

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You mean Kakao Entertainment? Yeah, it's bigger than the big three combined.

Not unless they become independent of Kakao.

No subsidiary company can be counted as a 'big'.

And Kakao or CJ E&M can't be counted, because their primary/original business is not music production.

So nope. Frankly even BigHit/Hybe is doubtful, they have only one superbly successful BG. Txt/Enhyphen are so-so. Too early to say anything of LSF/NJ.

And HYBE also seems to prefer being an Entertainment Tech company, than a music/idol producer.

Maybe the 'big' concept should be retired.

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Not unless they become independent of Kakao.

No subsidiary company can be counted as a 'big'.

And Kakao or CJ E&M can't be counted, because their primary/original business is not music production.

So nope. Frankly even BigHit/Hybe is doubtful, they have only one superbly successful BG. Txt/Enhyphen are so-so. Too early to say anything of LSF/NJ.

And HYBE also seems to prefer being an Entertainment Tech company, than a music/idol producer.

Maybe the 'big' concept should be retired.

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Sure you can.

You just have to use the music production side of the business, in this case KakaoM

Is like Hybe and it's subsidiaries, Big Hit, Source music, Pledis Entertainment, ADOR.

When people say big 4, they are talking about Hybe, not it's subsidiaries.

So a top 5 would be

1. SM

2. Hybe

3. YG

4. JYP

5. KakaoM

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Sure you can.

You just have to use the music production side of the business, in this case KakaoM

Is like Hybe and it's subsidiaries, Big Hit, Source music, Pledis Entertainment, ADOR.

When people say big 4, they are talking about Hybe, not it's subsidiaries.

So a top 5 would be

1. SM

2. Hybe

3. YG

4. JYP

5. KakaoM

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Perceptions come before definitions.

KakaoM has been running subsidiary acts for more than 5 years and had IU, a bunch of pretty decent acts - yet never was perceived as 'Big', same with 'CJ E&M'

You can pitch it, but I don't think you will find many takers.

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Perceptions come before definitions.

KakaoM has been running subsidiary acts for more than 5 years and had IU, a bunch of pretty decent acts - yet never was perceived as 'Big', same with 'CJ E&M'

You can pitch it, but I don't think you will find many takers.

True, the OP basically proved your point with his title.

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Ultimate group of all time is still f(x) but current active group is IVE.

Yes Rei is my bias. My first ever official Japanese bias also.

interesting

Rei is my wrecker she’s a great performer

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Not unless they become independent of Kakao.

No subsidiary company can be counted as a 'big'.

And Kakao or CJ E&M can't be counted, because their primary/original business is not music production.

So nope. Frankly even BigHit/Hybe is doubtful, they have only one superbly successful BG. Txt/Enhyphen are so-so. Too early to say anything of LSF/NJ.

And HYBE also seems to prefer being an Entertainment Tech company, than a music/idol producer.

Maybe the 'big' concept should be retired.

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I mean same about SM? They are much more deep in tech stuff and all that shit. I think only JYP has no alter subsidiaries.

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Starship is under kakao also yes

there is no big5. previously ss had a popular gg and it was sistar, then wjsn and monsta x debuted but they aren't that popular. cravity and ive are both new groups in ss but cravity is almost nugu. currently, only ive is saving starship.